HOW TO: Replicating Diamond Non-Skid

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This post is intended to outline the process of repairing damage to the diamond non-skid pattern that every Grady I have seen has on the gunwales and/or cockpit floor. Please note that I make no guarantees about the results you will achieve. I can only say this process worked very well for me. :)


Step 1: Prep the area.

After making all required glass repairs to the area, I sanded, faired, cleaned and masked off for application of the base coat of gelcoat. This was a large repair, so not all jobs will require as much prep work.

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Step 2: Put down your base layer of gelcoat.

Thanks to much advice from Trident on www.classicmako.com, I figured out how to spray gelcoat with a Preval sprayer. The magic mix was 1 oz gelcoat, 6 ml acetone, a TINY dab of brown coloring agent and the appropriate amount of catalyst for the outside temperature. I mixed up larger batches, but using this ratio.

DO NOT add the catalyst until you have thoroughly mixed the other three components.

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Step 3: Choose and prep a location to make your non-skid mold.

NOTE: Pre-made molds are available from Minicraft of FL (www.minicraft.com). I was in a time cruch so I chose to make my own instead of waiting a few days for delivery.

I chose a spot up on the bow because the pattern wasn't worn from people walking on it for the past 20 years. I cleaned the area, sprayed two layers of PVA down and masked it off for the next step.

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Step 4: Make the mold.

I sprayed several coats of 3M spray-on bedliner over the area selected in Step 3. It was like $4 for a can at Autozone. I used up the whole can.

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I let that cure overnight and pulled the pattern up in the morning.

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Step 5: Trim and prepare the mold.

The next step in the mold making process was to trim the pattern to fit the area to be non-skidded. I masked off all areas that were not to received the non-skid and cut the pattern to fit inside these areas. Once I did this, I sprayed PVA on the patterned side of the mold and let it dry.

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Step 6: Prep the base coat for non-skid. and apply the non-skid.

Once I sanded and cleaned the area to receive non-skid, I tried my best to lay down one end of the mold and get it to mesh with the existing non-skid. I taped that end down and folded the mold back over itself.

Reference the picture in Step 7.


Step 7: Apply the non-skid.

I applied the gelocat with a spreader and then folded the mold back on to the fresh gelcoat and layed some wax paper over everything. Then I rolled over the mold with a piece of AL pipe to squeege out any excess gelcoat.

The way paper was put down to serve the same purpose as spraying PVA over fresh gelcoat....to seal it off from the atmosphere and allow it to cure.

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Step 8: Remove the pattern.

After allowing enough time for the non-skid to cure, I pulled up the wax paper and mold (it came up in pieces). I then had to do some light sanding around the edges to blend the surrounding areas.

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Step 9: Touch up (may not be required, use your own judgement).

My last step was spraying a light layer of gelcoat around the edges of the new non-skid to build up the area slightly. I rushed this and didn't tint it quite enough, but I wasn't about to do it again. :)

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LESSONS LEARNED:

1. Don't get the bedliner spray on any areas that didn't get mold release. It comes up, but not without a fight.
2. Give the molded bedliner at least 1 full day to cure before attempting to gelcoat. When I layed it down to cut it to size, it stuck to the existing gelcoat and I had to "help" it up with a plastic spreader. However, if you give it too much cure time and it gets brittle though. That has me thinking there's probably a better product out there for making the mold.
3. DO NOT RUSH! Take your time or you WILL screw it up. :D

Hope this help anyone looking to match similar patterns. :)
 
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Brian, this will be the next skill for me to learn, my Grady needs some gelcoat work. Like the last skil I leaned from you, am looking forward to it !
 

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Nice how-to write-up and photo's, Brian. Admin should make this a 'sticky', or creat an index for How-to threads like this one.
 
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WOW, great job! I'd freak out just knowing I was about to spray a whole can of bedliner on my boat! :shock:
 

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brian referred to classicmako.com

There's nothing those guys over at classicmako.com don't do with boats.
These are the kind of guys who get home from their day jobs and go right to the garage, even nap there on breaks. The only time they come out is when the Admiral takes them by the ear for family or social activities!

My kind of guys!

Anybody interested in such boat reworking incl turning centerconsoles in pilot houses, just go there and check out a project boat like Eddie Ring's, step by step instructions, photos, mostly private guys doing what they love.

My kind of guys!
 

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Your right about these Mako guys. There seems to be no end to the lengths they are willing to go on their projects, although some of these guys are obviously in the business. The question is, are they built that much better than other boats as to inspire guys like this to go to such lenghts? If so, what makes them so good, hull construction, design/ride, deck layout or what?
 

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cdwood said:
The question is, are they built that much better than other boats as to inspire guys like this to go to such lenghts? If so, what makes them so good, hull construction, design/ride, deck layout or what?

I would have to say it's a combination of all of those things.
 

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It their hay day, Mako center consoles were No. 1, put Grady to shame on ride and rough water capability, deep V except 20 footer modified V - good bay boat.

One of the reasons Grady had to come up with the SeaV2 design.

Entirly fishing oriented, not "multi-functional". Zero appeal to check writing Admiral.

Then it was all over for Mako.

I think there are sites for old Bertrams too.

Plenty of sites for old cars, I guess it's all the same.
 

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BobP said:
It their hay day, Mako center consoles were No. 1, put Grady to shame on ride and rough water capability, deep V except 20 footer modified V - good bay boat.

One of the reasons Grady had to come up with the SeaV2 design.



Then it was all over for Mako.


What happened, the company get bought out?
 

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gw204,

i'm a dumb##$. what is PVA ?

"I cleaned the area, sprayed two layers of PVA down and masked it off for the next step."

thanks,
 

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fishingstories said:
gw204,

what is PVA ?

PVA stands for Poly-Vinyl Alcohol I believe. It's a mold release agent. You spray it on to prevent the new gelcoat from adhering to the existing surface. It is often used in conjunction with a mold release wax...which is applied to the surface first.
 

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Just curious if latex would work for the mold . Seems to me it might be easier to use and more plyable . Also how do you find spray on gel coat I also need to do some repairs on my Grady
 

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Anything that stays pliable would probably work better than the bedliner...especially if you are thinking of using it more than once.

Gelcoat is available in two forms: paste and liquid. For spray application, buy the liquid and thin it accordingly.
 

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You can buy reverse molds that match many non-skid patterns. Here is one link
http://www.jamestowndistributors.com/us ... r+Patterns

Russ, Forget all that mumbo-jumbo about making your own reverse mold. Listen to what seasick said years ago. I did some repairs using those patterns and it work out great. When you contact them they will send you some small samples first so you can try them on your boat to see for sure which pattern you have. Then when you know the correct pattern number you can order what you need. Here is a partial list of patterns...
https://www.jamestowndistributors.c...o?docId=493&title=The+Right+Flex+Mold+Pattern
 

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Oh, lol.. I did not read the post... was starting to and noticed all the photos were gone.. heh.. so.. not looking into it at all atm, but thanks! Now I have to actually READ this thread lol

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Does anybody know the correct number of the mold for Grady's Diamond Pattern from 2001? So I don't have to buy the samples. I know their list says 304 and 308 but they only stock a small list of other numbers. I imagine one of the diamond pattern would work.

 
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