Looking at a nice 204 , 2004 model but due to bad experiences I didnt want a boat with wood . so I spoke to the manufacturer and thay said that boat has a treated no rot wood called greenwood forestry products? Anyone ever had any major problems with it ?
2004 adventure 208. Wood ?
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Must be a new record - 1-1/2 hours till the impatient "bump"! As if we're all on the computer with nothing better to do than just waiting around for your question. Some of us do have other interests.
It's certainly better, but it's still wood. Best thing to do is to get a good inspection and a proper hull survey (moisture)... but make sure you get someone that is expereienced with this - not just some Joe Schmoe with a moisture reader as all hulls will show some moisture.
Plus 1 to what DennisG01 said.
I don't think you have much to worry about if the current owner took care of her.
I have a 87 Grady 228 with moisture in the transom, and bought it knowing that anyway.
I raised the scuppers 3" by cutting out new holes in the transom 3 years back. I was amazed how "tight" the wood still was in there.
Your model year is not that old.
I don't think you have much to worry about if the current owner took care of her.
I have a 87 Grady 228 with moisture in the transom, and bought it knowing that anyway.
I raised the scuppers 3" by cutting out new holes in the transom 3 years back. I was amazed how "tight" the wood still was in there.
Your model year is not that old.
It's entirely unnecessary to be rude here, especially to a new member. If you post on THT you will get 15 answers in an hour and a half. I'm sure you're a nice guy Dennis but you came off pretty harsh.
Cjmac I am running a 208 with a wet transom and have no intention of fixing it until I repower. I'll do it myself but if you are not prepared to do it yourself it's around 3-5k to have someone else do it.
The way Grady leaves the transom unglassed underneath the bang strip on the top edge of the transom it's almost guaranteed a 15 year old boat has a wet transom.
A little tongue-in-cheek, sure. Rude, no - or at least that wasn't the intent. I did give him an honest, helpful answer, as well. But truthfully, whatever happened to the old saying of "good things come to those who wait"? Now, I'm over generalizing here, and this isn't directly related to the OP, but it seems like the younger crowd is getting more and more impatient and is expecting answers to come right away. Not just here on forums, but with lot's of things. Is patience no longer a virtue?
I see this with my own kids and I do work on teaching them - that just because technology provides us with near-immediate answers, it doesn't mean that people work that way (nor should we expect them to). I worry that, as a society, we're becoming so focused on immediate gratification that we're losing our ability to actually interact with a person and becoming a "culture of impatience". But, I digress... I'm stepping off my soapbox... although that "old" saying is probably lost on the younger crowd, too
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Yes Dennis, It is the "dawning of the age of Impatience" There is expectations that the human responce should be every bit as instant and satisfying as "Google"with similar effort. OOOps did I just say that out loud?
Ha! I see what you did there! He was "patient" with his responseTrapper,
what took you so long to respond to Dennis?
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And here it is Tuesday, 3 days after Cjmac joined, 2 days after his first 3 posts, 1 of those demanding an answer,,,,,and we haven't heard anything more from him???
Sorry, couldn't resist, apologies!!!
Sorry, couldn't resist, apologies!!!
On a somewhat serious note.....
Wood is not a problem per se, water is. I know that sounds obvious but what you need to be concerned about is water intrusion and possible resulting rot or delamination.
The only way to know what you may have in the moisture area is to have a survey done that includes a complete moisture test done by a knowledgeable surveyor. On many Gradys, the locker lids may shoe a high moisture reading but have no wood. The moisture get sucked up through the edges.
You could in theory have a hull with no wood but soaked with water (Foam holds moisture for a long time) One issue that is often overlooked and depending on your location is that wet foam may not rot like wood it can freeze and expand and that can do damage.
Fiberglass is not exactly waterproof either.
My point is that is may sound like a good idea to avoid wood, wood by itself is not evil! Some hulls do have more issues than others but that should not be a show stopper in deciding on a boat. Condition is the key.
I was wrong. He posted on tht on 9/30 at 4:55 and got 7 measured responses in 3 hours.
Hence the lack of response here. He's a member there since 2016 but obviously took the time to join this board to talk directly to owners.
I experienced the same thing on the W/C board when I bought a 26 World Cat back in 2006.
I don't really care one way or another cause I'm new here but like many of you I have decades of experience and like these boards to pass along whatever knowledge I can to the younger guys.
But, if you guys want a private club, that's fine too.
Hence the lack of response here. He's a member there since 2016 but obviously took the time to join this board to talk directly to owners.
I experienced the same thing on the W/C board when I bought a 26 World Cat back in 2006.
I don't really care one way or another cause I'm new here but like many of you I have decades of experience and like these boards to pass along whatever knowledge I can to the younger guys.
But, if you guys want a private club, that's fine too.
Paul, you seem to be a little upset by things and I'm not sure why. There's some good natured humor in this thread, sure, but there's also lot's of helpful information. I don't understand what is wrong with any of that?
I have never posted on THT (I don't think I've ever even been on their website) so I have no idea how things are there. Although, from hearing others talk about THT, it seems like there are a LOT more members there. I think it's pretty fair to say that with more people on the forum, comes more responses, right? Maybe the responses over there were very good - I have no idea - but I would point out, though, that "quantity doesn't always equal quality". Plus, to your comment about the number of responses... why does the number of responses he gets determine whether or not he responds back?
But, why are you comparing one forum to another - what's the purpose of that? Whether he got more responses somewhere else, or not, doesn't negate the fact that he asked a question here and it's just common courtesy to reply back. After all, we spent our own time to respond and try and help him - because, like you, we enjoy doing that. But the help goes unanswered. Do you think that is proper? When that happens, it kinda feels like he just sees us as "information" - not as real, live people. But I suppose that goes along with the "Age of Impatience".
Now, the crack about a "private club"... well... that's not appropriate. But let's leave it as you're upset about something and that's the reason for the lash out.
I have never posted on THT (I don't think I've ever even been on their website) so I have no idea how things are there. Although, from hearing others talk about THT, it seems like there are a LOT more members there. I think it's pretty fair to say that with more people on the forum, comes more responses, right? Maybe the responses over there were very good - I have no idea - but I would point out, though, that "quantity doesn't always equal quality". Plus, to your comment about the number of responses... why does the number of responses he gets determine whether or not he responds back?
But, why are you comparing one forum to another - what's the purpose of that? Whether he got more responses somewhere else, or not, doesn't negate the fact that he asked a question here and it's just common courtesy to reply back. After all, we spent our own time to respond and try and help him - because, like you, we enjoy doing that. But the help goes unanswered. Do you think that is proper? When that happens, it kinda feels like he just sees us as "information" - not as real, live people. But I suppose that goes along with the "Age of Impatience".
Now, the crack about a "private club"... well... that's not appropriate. But let's leave it as you're upset about something and that's the reason for the lash out.
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I've owned or moderated a half dozen different internet forums over the years. The statement that "you guys want a private club here" is really played out. I've read it so many times I want to puke whenever I see it. Every group has its own culture. New members just need to figure it out before getting upset.
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As a moderator on here, I watch the responses and questions asked pretty regular. To ask for our guidance and want an answer within an hour and a half of your first 3 posts after just joining the day before, and on a weekend no less, is a bit presumptuous on his part. Most of us on this site have day jobs and when the weekend arrives we tend to have things to do, be it work around the house or some water therapy on our Grady's, so to not give an immediate answer is the norm. We will answer questions when we can get a moment to sit down and log on.
For you to think we are being mean or want a private group, you are very wrong.
Most new members take the time for an introduction and a little background on what they are looking for or what they have. We all have a common interest here being Grady owners or prospective Grady owners. Some of us have worked in the marine industry and others have firsthand knowledge about many aspects of the Grady's having owned multiple boats, there is a wealth of info to be found here.
We do see it a lot, people joining, ask a question, get answers, and never bother to reply back. Common courtesy to at least say "Thanks" for someone to take the time to respond to your question. Manners are more and more a thing of the past.
For you to think we are being mean or want a private group, you are very wrong.
Most new members take the time for an introduction and a little background on what they are looking for or what they have. We all have a common interest here being Grady owners or prospective Grady owners. Some of us have worked in the marine industry and others have firsthand knowledge about many aspects of the Grady's having owned multiple boats, there is a wealth of info to be found here.
We do see it a lot, people joining, ask a question, get answers, and never bother to reply back. Common courtesy to at least say "Thanks" for someone to take the time to respond to your question. Manners are more and more a thing of the past.
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You must be really sensitive if that's all it takes to make you want to puke.
Any other statements I shouldn't make so that I don't upset your tender stomach?
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