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Hi, can anyone please tell me if the following info on weights from the Grady archives for the 270 Islander are true - 2004 weight w/o engine 4660lb, 2005 weight w/o engine 5594lb.?
 
this has been talked about a few times here. there is some doubt in the applicability of the weights listed for comparing apples to apples boats. There are models in the early 2000s with similiar weight changs with no major re-designs. could they have just laid heavier glass? maybe. could they have included more features as standard equipment? also maybe.

i know that wasnt super helpful, but thats all i got...
 
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The weight weight quoted for the 1997 268 Islander Euro transom was 4,660 lbs. The 270 with a full length running surface would be a little heavier. None of the brochure weights make sense to me. As the HP increased the weight didn't change. When extra length and full running surface was added the weight didn't change. The 2005 weight looks wrong almost like the Sailfish which the Islander is a smaller version of.

1997 4,660 400 hp 268 Islander with Euro transom
1998 4,660 400 hp 268 Islander with Euro transom
1999 4,660 450 hp 268 Islander with Euro transom
2000 4,660 500 hp 268 Islander with Euro transom
2001 4,660 500 hp 268 Islander with Euro transom
2002 4,660 500 hp 270 Islander with full running surface
2003 4,660 500 hp 270 Islander with full running surface
2004 4,660 500 hp 270 Islander with full running surface
2005 5,594 500 hp 270 Islander with full running surface. 282 Sailfish 5,800
 
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Hookup1 said:
The weight weight quoted for the 1997 268 Islander Euro transom was 4,660 lbs. The 270 with a full length running surface would be a little heavier. None of the brochure weights make sense to me. As the HP increased the weight didn't change. When extra length and full running surface was added the weight didn't change. The 2005 weight looks wrong almost like the Sailfish which the Islander is a smaller version of.

1997 4,660 400 hp 268 Islander with Euro transom
1998 4,660 400 hp 268 Islander with Euro transom
1999 4,660 450 hp 268 Islander with Euro transom
2000 4,660 500 hp 268 Islander with Euro transom
2001 4,660 500 hp 268 Islander with Euro transom
2002 4,660 500 hp 270 Islander with full running surface
2003 4,660 500 hp 270 Islander with full running surface
2004 4,660 500 hp 270 Islander with full running surface
2005 5,594 500 hp 270 Islander with full running surface. 282 Sailfish 5,800
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its a similar illogical pattern for the Chase line as well. Grady didnt have an answer when i called except for possibly more standard features.
 
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I thought the number GW published for 2005 was BS. It seemed too high, until I weighed mine. I think the nearly 5,600 lbs is legit. The question I'd like to know, are all if the earlier models really that light?
I'm not one to be a conspiracy theorist, but I couldn't help but wonder if more "beef" was added to the 270 to help with design deficiencies. That said, I've yet to read of any issues. Maybe hulls were getting beefed up knowing a 300 4 stroke was in the future?
 
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family affair said:
I thought the number GW published for 2005 was BS. It seemed too high, until I weighed mine. I think the nearly 5,600 lbs is legit. The question I'd like to know, are all if the earlier models really that light?
I'm not one to be a conspiracy theorist, but I couldn't help but wonder if more "beef" was added to the 270 to help with design deficiencies. That said, I've yet to read of any issues. Maybe hulls were getting beefed up knowing a 300 4 stroke was in the future?
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Did you weigh yours on a trailer? What was the weight? What outboards?
 
I need to do some digging to see if I can find the numbers. I weighed it because I needed the weight of the trailer for registration and I planned to buy a new trailer. I specifically remember the total for the boat being higher than I anticipated with f150s.
 
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Did you weigh yours on a trailer? What was the weight? What outboards?
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id be interested in the details as well. the advertised dry weight includes no fuel, no engines, no personal stuff that accumulates over the years...
 
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family affair said:
I thought the number GW published for 2005 was BS. It seemed too high, until I weighed mine. I think the nearly 5,600 lbs is legit. The question I'd like to know, are all if the earlier models really that light?
I'm not one to be a conspiracy theorist, but I couldn't help but wonder if more "beef" was added to the 270 to help with design deficiencies. That said, I've yet to read of any issues. Maybe hulls were getting beefed up knowing a 300 4 stroke was in the future?
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The full running surface was increase flotation and support the weight of the new 4-stroke engines. I think it was just sloppy on GW part and they didn't update the specs as the hull changed.

I have not weighed mine on the trailer but I may this year. I have so much stuff on the boat it's hard to get an accurate weight. The hull at 4,700 plus two engines at 470 each = 5,640 seems "light" to me.
 
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Hookup1 said:
The full running surface was increase flotation and support the weight of the new 4-stroke engines. I think it was just sloppy on GW part and they didn't update the specs as the hull changed.
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this is actually what i suspect as well, but have no concrete evidence to support it. my transom also has large aluminum brackets that bolt to the stringers. not sure if that was on the shorter running surface boats as well.

some day i will roll mine across the scales
 
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I looked through my "archives." Unfortunately that data appears to be gone.
As stated before, I determined the 5600 to be accurate and sized my trailer accordingly. My trailer capacity is 8400. If the boat is fully fueled (200g) and watered, with a hardtop, f150s, batteries, and 150 lbs of miscellaneous crap put me slightly over 8400. Since I never use the aux tank or fill the giant water tank, I'm definitely under 8400.
For those who think I'm cheating death with every tow because I didn't oversize my trailer by 2x, the only thing hindering my capacity is my tires. I have 6k axles. Minus the tires, this is essentially the same trailer as the 10k model.
 
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The issue with the argument about the weight being greater because of more standard features isn't valid. When looking at both the 2004 and the 2005 brochure, they're nearly identical in terms of standard and optional features. The only things that the 2005 has that the 2004 doesn't have, would be a compass, an in cabin 6 rod storage rack vs only 4 and the option for Sirius radio. Now obviously all 3 of these things aren't even close to being 1k lbs difference between the two years, and I imagine that the 2004 came standard with a compass even though it doesn't say they do, considering my 2004 GW 228 Seafarer has one that is standard. But if the brochures are correct, the two different model years are almost identical in terms of standard/optional features, as well as they're identical in terms of height, length, beam width, same size of fuel tanks and so forth.

Lastly, Grady White discontinued the 270 Islander after the 2005 season and can't imagine that they would've done any extensive/costly changes to the boat if they were going to, or thinking about scrapping the model the following year anyway. My guess would be that it's one of a couple different possibilities... either the 2005 brochure weight is a typo. Or, and I think this is the more likely possibility, is that one of the earlier brochures was a typo that they continued using the incorrect weight of the vessel for several years before catching the issue and then they re-weighed it. The 2005 GW 270 Islander shows a weight of 5,600 lbs and I have to imagine that's likely in the ballpark considering the 265 Express shows as weighing 5,400 lbs and the 282 Sailfish shows as weighing 5,800 lbs. Both of those two boats have wider beams at 9'7" and 9'6", compared to the 270 Islander which is only an 8'6" beam. But, I wouldn't imagine the 270 Islander would be over 1k lbs less than the two above mentioned boats solely because it has a narrower beam than the others.
 
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I’m by sure what you really want to know what trailer weight capacity you need. I have a 8200 Sea Lion dual axel trailer. Tires upgraded to “E” rated for 2,860 lbs each x 4 = 11,460 lbs. With all my stuff and the boat I’m sure I am close to the trailer rating. I’ll try to check when I’m back.
 
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family affair said:
I looked through my "archives." Unfortunately that data appears to be gone.
As stated before, I determined the 5600 to be accurate and sized my trailer accordingly. My trailer capacity is 8400. If the boat is fully fueled (200g) and watered, with a hardtop, f150s, batteries, and 150 lbs of miscellaneous crap put me slightly over 8400. Since I never use the aux tank or fill the giant water tank, I'm definitely under 8400.
For those who think I'm cheating death with every tow because I didn't oversize my trailer by 2x, the only thing hindering my capacity is my tires. I have 6k axles. Minus the tires, this is essentially the same trailer as the 10k model.
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so, with the boat on the trailer, you measured a total weight (boat and trailer) of over 8400 with fuel, water, gear, and misc crap?
 
No. Boat is 8400. Gross trailer weight is right at 10k lbs. 8400 boat + 1600 trailer.
 
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