captkfly said:OK guys, thanks for the great "buying advice." Now let's get back to the 300hp E-TECH. Good engine or bad engine for a Grady. What is the word out there on the E-TECH engines...........
Apologise for continuing "buying advice" , but you did ask for it and I have some questions... beyond the excellent advice below :?:captkfly said:Please give all advice on how to negotiate...............
BobP said:CaptK. & others
there are several factors many consider in picking a dealer, that have nothing to do with price, I only speak of price, if it means anything.
And you have some time, one day or two.
Good for cars, boats, motors, lawnmovers , or most anything, incl outboard motors.
Let's say you want etec, fine, keep that a secret, can you?
Go shopping face to face not on internet - for repowing 250 or 300 Verado, HPDI, Optimax, F250, Suzie, get your best price, go to one or more dealers of each, write down all details, what's incl, not incl., rebates, warranties, free service credits, etc. Make a chart and study it, remember it, cary it with you.
Now you are a graduate of BobP school of consumer education training. Congratulations!
Did you keep the secret?
Now go to etec dealer of your choice last, say you are shopping, evaluate all other factors picking him that mean something to you other than price.
When he gives you a price and all other details, now you can negotiate since you have a basis to. if another offers a better warranty, say it, that is worth a value, etc. The etec dealer is now in competition with other motor brands, he wasn't if you didn't graduate and flunked out.
Did you give up the secret? if you did, he isn't competing with anyone.
You may find the initial price etec deal good, or not, or even a much better deal with other motors mentioned. If he or anyone gives you list price, well, that says it all about how he needs your business.
Did you give the secret up? Never do. That's why it's secret.<...>
:lol: "Barefoot Pilgrim" was what a Miami Ford Salesman called customers he knew were 'going-to-buy'. :lol:gradyfish22 said:Excellent advice Bob!!!! Even if you are heart set on something never tell a salesmen that...if he knows you want it nomatter what he will try his best to make as much off of you that he can. If he thinks he has to work for a sale and you might go else where he will be willing to make less for the sale just to win you over...this may even mean walking away, even if you do plan to buy it or even go back...if your not satisfied tell them you need to think about it a few days and talk it over with the wife.....when they call tell them you love the engine but the wife is persuading you to go with another due to a better deal/warranty, etc, your still unsure and between the two now...make him do better. Especially right now, it is a buyers market and they will be willing to deal more for a sale, just to move product even at little profit, because in the end you will use them for service and other things where they can make money off you in the end.
Letting any salesmen know you are going to buy their product is like throwing hard earned money away.