Hello all. I've been lurking here for a little while and have found something I'm interested in. 1977 CC, blown 140 Rude from salt water intrusion damage to 1 piston, no trailer, new tank 2 years ago, needs new gauges and some wiring, bimini and dodger. Deck has numerous cracks in front of the step up to the bow running port to starboard and almost the full width of the boat. These cracks seem to be on top af a hump in the deck as if something underneath is pushing up causing these cracks. Hatch cover for fuel tank soft and needs recore. Not exactly sure what to make of this as it has caused me not to move foward. Not looking to restore this boat, just looking to make it reliable and ready to get wet so I can have some fun with my kids. Price is cheap enough that yes, I can locate a "slightly" used motor and a good trailer but don't want to invest in something that may have serious issues before I get started and then have to look for something else. Any insight would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
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There are better things to spend your money on than a 31 yr. old boat
no matter how cheap. Save more and buy something newer/better!
If you're not wanting to 'restore" this boat, chances are it won't be "reliable and ready to get wet"
You are talking about taking your FAMILY on this vessel?
no matter how cheap. Save more and buy something newer/better!
If you're not wanting to 'restore" this boat, chances are it won't be "reliable and ready to get wet"
You are talking about taking your FAMILY on this vessel?
I disagree (sort of) about avoiding older boats. However, this one sounds like the seller should pay you $500 to take it off his property.
I bought an '81 Grady last fall and only had to do minor work to it. This included having a mechanic clean carbs and tune the '93 Evinrude 200, change waterpump, instal Racor water seperator, etc. I also just completed some transom work due to water intrusion over the years. The rest of the work was cosmetic, such as oxidation and refinishing the teak. All in all, the boat was well cared for and not abused. It was in pretty good shape for its age and more important - it was deemed seaworthy from a certified marine surveyor.
When I started looking for a boat, I was trying to spend about $5-$6k. I soon realized that $6k really means $8+k if you do some of the work yourself.
My advice- keep looking. There are good boats out there that will be safe for your family. They will just need some TLC to get them looking their best. Good Luck.
David
I bought an '81 Grady last fall and only had to do minor work to it. This included having a mechanic clean carbs and tune the '93 Evinrude 200, change waterpump, instal Racor water seperator, etc. I also just completed some transom work due to water intrusion over the years. The rest of the work was cosmetic, such as oxidation and refinishing the teak. All in all, the boat was well cared for and not abused. It was in pretty good shape for its age and more important - it was deemed seaworthy from a certified marine surveyor.
When I started looking for a boat, I was trying to spend about $5-$6k. I soon realized that $6k really means $8+k if you do some of the work yourself.
My advice- keep looking. There are good boats out there that will be safe for your family. They will just need some TLC to get them looking their best. Good Luck.
David
Doesn't sound to sea worthy to me, I'd fee safer on a 13' whaler with Oars in 10' seas. If the deck is cracking and the deck has a bulge, that is a bad sign, and is likely a sign of the rest of the boat. If that stuff is wrong, I'm sure the transom has never been recored, and stringers checked, it is possible the engine will fall right off in rough stuff. There is a chance the boat will stay safe, but with what you are telling us, I would not put myself on it or my family and feel safe. I'd rather save my money and find friends to fish with until you can afford something that will not be a money pit, that $500 will allow you to get a decent amount of trips in on safe boats and allow you to save a few bucks and buy something safer for you. If you do buy it for $500, be ready to drop a few bucks into it before ever splashing it. Likely you will need to do the transom, have it checked at the least, a new transom will be over $2000 depending on if you do it or a yard. The decks need re coring for sure if they are that cracked, that is roughly $600 a deck hatch if you have a yard do it. And find out what is making the deck bulge, either something is pushing up on it, or there may be water in there that froze and expanded, but it should now sag once it unfreezes, to me that makes me think internal structures have shifted or the hull has changed shape forcing that deck up, there should not be anything underneath to push that deck up, there is always a gap between the tanks and deck. As dlevitt says, you can buy older boats that are a great deal, but be aware that they may require some work, it may not need to be done this season if not, but a boat that age will need it soon and should not be put off.
As a side note, if you want a seaworthy turn key boat, I have a 1989 22 Seafarer for sale w/ a 2000 Yamaha HPDI, asking $16,999 but will take lower, going to a broker mid week if not sold before then. Not sure if that fits your budget or not but figured I'd throw it out there.
As a side note, if you want a seaworthy turn key boat, I have a 1989 22 Seafarer for sale w/ a 2000 Yamaha HPDI, asking $16,999 but will take lower, going to a broker mid week if not sold before then. Not sure if that fits your budget or not but figured I'd throw it out there.
What's your budget?
Around $13,900 will get you this...
http://www.classicparker.com/phpBB2/vie ... php?t=4178
Around $13,900 will get you this...
http://www.classicparker.com/phpBB2/vie ... php?t=4178