2000 EVINRUDE 225HP WITH 3 ERROR LIGHTS ON GAUGE

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Hi there. I have a boat with a 2000 EVINRUDE 225HP and it is showing me 3 error lights on the gauge.
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The motor starts and runs fine but after a while, these lights come up and the motor shuts down like some sort of protection and then I have to wait for a while to start it back again because it won't do it while these lights are on.
Can anybody tell me what's going on here? Should I be worried about it?
 

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Found this article
I have no experience in that motor.
 

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2 of them say HOT and NO OIL. Are you sure that neither is the case?
You put the oil in a small tank and the motor mixes it with gasoline by itself, the oil tank is full of oil.
I was thinking that the 3 lights combined mean something different that just each light by itself.
 

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Found this article
I have no experience in that motor.
I read it all but it doesn't tell you how to interpret the lights :(
 

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I didn't check until now. you are correct, the link doesn't explain the meaning of the different lamp sequences.
 

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Based on my past experience you have a faulty EMM (engine management module). There's plenty of info out there to read up on. Search it up and compare it to what you've got going on. PM me if need be.
 

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A few questions:
Did you check the oil level in the remote tank?
Do you know if that motor has a VRO system? If so, a failed pump seems to be a common cause of the low oil alarm
When you first turn on the ignition ( one click) does a horn on the ignition switch beep once? If so, does it beep multiple times when you get the alarm?
 

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A few questions:
Did you check the oil level in the remote tank?
Do you know if that motor has a VRO system? If so, a failed pump seems to be a common cause of the low oil alarm
When you first turn on the ignition ( one click) does a horn on the ignition switch beep once? If so, does it beep multiple times when you get the alarm?

Thank you so much for replying back to me on this.... I don't recall any beeps when I start the motor at all...
The oil level is fine. I opened the motor cover yesterday and I noticed that there is a small oil leak. I don't know if it is constant or it just happened once. I cleaned it and will turn it back on today to check if the leak continues...
 

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Based on my past experience you have a faulty EMM (engine management module). There's plenty of info out there to read up on. Search it up and compare it to what you've got going on. PM me if need be.

I'll read about it. Thank you so much for your time and help :)
 

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A few questions:
Did you check the oil level in the remote tank?
Do you know if that motor has a VRO system? If so, a failed pump seems to be a common cause of the low oil alarm
When you first turn on the ignition ( one click) does a horn on the ignition switch beep once? If so, does it beep multiple times when you get the alarm?
I took the boat to the water yesterday and I put oil into the fuel tank because the oil pump seems not to be sucking oil. I had somebody to check it and he says that the oil pump seems to be fine but there is a ground wire that is not receiving signal from the computer. That should be the cause of not oil in the system, and that's why I mixed the oil with the fuel manually. But I still have the 3 error lights, once they come on, the motor shuts down and doesn't start again.
Any idea on this????
 

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The motor doesn't know that you added oil to the gas. It is detecting a no oil condition and acting accordingly.
 

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Hi to everyone.
So what I did was to replace the whole Oil Pump but I am still having the same 3 error lights:
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I had my motor scanned and this is what I got:
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Any suggestions on what I need to do regarding these codes???
And does any of these codes has anything to do with the 3 error lights???
Thank you so much in advance.
 

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First, need to see active faults and historic faults. The last two stored codes occurred at the same time. How many hours are on the engine now? These could be very old codes. Air temp below range is unlikely unless you are boating in the Arctic. I'd suspect an air temp sensor failure or a bad connection, not that uncommon. Can they be reset and if so, do they recur? The most recent, shift switch malfunction, could also be a switch failure or connection issue. If they can be reset do that and see if they recur. I suspect these codes are related to the check engine light, but not to the no oil and hot light.
 

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In addition to wanting to know current hours, I am most interested in the last error. I don't have a wiring diagram for that motor but would be interested in finding out where the connect on connector J1, pin 19 on the ECU goes to.
Apparently the ECU is looking for a signal but just sees an open circuit. I don't know what sensor it is complaining about but it could be related to the ambient air temp sensor. I am hoping it is related to main oil tank sensor.
 

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This is the switch I purchased online.
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Although it is located right at the bottom of the engine and it's a hard place to reach, I will try to replace it. Do you guys think this switch is what generates error code 28???
After replacing this switch, I will be clearing all codes hoping for my motor to work properly.
About the hours on this motor, I don't know. There is not a gauge that shows hours of work on this boat.
 

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Do not clear the faults. Check the active faults as suggested and deal with those. If you fix something responsible, the active fault will clear.
Also as suggested, look for the total hours report. It's got to be there somewhere. It would help to know if any of the current faults coincide with the total hours.
 

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OK, I replaced the shift switch and I am still having the 3 error lights in the RPM gauge. When those lights come up, my motor just won't start, not minding what I do, it won't start. I have to let it rest like for a day so it will be back on.
This is so frustrating, what is happening to my motor??? :(
 

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If you wait a day or so, when you try to start it are the error lights still lit? Have you tried forums like

I know nothing about it but maybe you can post a question/
 

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Yesterday I replaced the key switch thinking that maybe that could be the cause of the error lights but it continues the same.
I start the motor and leave it working for a bit, then I shut it down. When I open the switch again, I am going to have the error lights and the motor won't start.
When the motor is on, it runs very strong with no problems, but when those lights come up, then it won't start anymore.
I'm going to try the forum you recommended me... Thank you!