24 offshore, re-power trade

[shadow379]

I have the 1980 240 offshore posted on here with the 1990 E-rude 200 with a melted piston, I have found a shop here that will sell and install a 1996 evinrude ocean pro, for $2000 turn key job. The compression is 110/120 in all cylinders. Should I do the trade or rebuild my current engine.

Thanks,

 

[shadow379]

trade part I left out

The $2000 includes my motor as a trade in also..

 

[gwwannabe]

Mike, last summer I blew my '87 200 hp Johnson and was faced with the same question. Everyone around here recommended NOT putting a new powerhead on because of the stress it would put on the old components.

There were a number of late 80's/early 90's motors around but I opted to go with a 2000 Johnson 200 hp motor. Buying an older motor is a crap shoot. You might get one that lasts for years or fails in two months. I was lucky. The motor I bought was on a 25' C-hawk owned by a marine mechanic so I got to see the motor in action and he did the installation on my boat. Not only did I get a good motor in the deal but I got a good mechanic, too. And I was only out of the water 7 days.

In my opinion you should buy the latest model year motor you can afford, even if you have to save all winter to buy it. I'm sure you're anxious to get it in the water but in this case, I think you'd be better off being patient.

Gary 89 Overnighter

 

[BobP]

Suggest you find a used motor particulary since many are going to 4 stroke for no motor problem at all. Don't look for used motors at dealer, too expensive. Place an add in Fisherman or the like.

$1200 will get you a perfectly good motor, keep your old one for parts- ie. a lower unit rebuild is 1500 bucks or more. If you get same manuf similar vintage replacement.

 

[VeroWing]

Best "rule of thumb" way to determine future usefullness of an outboard is previous hours of use. On average, an outboard from the mid-90s era is good for around 1500-2000 hours of use, if properly maintained and not abused.
Can seller provide honest number for previous hours of use? If not, is there a warrantee included with motor? If both answers are no, then I would most likely seek a remanufactured powerhead instead of this deal. I would also not get involved with this motor if it has more than 700-800 hours.
For a comparison, I sold a excellant condition 1989 Johnson 200 with low hour(200-300) factory remanufactured powerhead for 1500, including controls, two months ago.
I'd recommend either a remanufactured powerhead, if the remainder of motor you have is in good shape, or a used outboard that has around 500 hours, or less, of use, that hasn't been abused.
Keep in mind regarding used outboards, if they were in great shape, why would owner replace them? Although there are various reasons why peole do replace their motors, usually they are getting tired, or hours are building up, and a savvy boater knows that problems will start happening.
Just my opinions, Mike.

 

[gw204]

This one might be worth a look...

http://www.thebassbarn.com/forum/showth ... p?t=192654

 

[shadow379]

re power

thanks for the input, it has surely gave me some things to think about.

 

[shadow379]

1996 johnson

It turns out the shop has a 1996 200 johnson ocean runner aprox-350-450 hrs. that came came off a Boston whaler running duals, and repowered with 4-strokes. 2 weeks ago. it was in a dry stack and drove 20miles by waterway to the marina doing the re-power. supposedly ran great and has good compression. Same price 2K..on my boat turn key. Your thoughts...

 

[VeroWing]

That motor is identical to the Evinrude Ocean Pro. If it is what you are saying it is, good even compression, low hours as stated, and price includes all rigging, hardware, etc., turn-key, out the door, with no surprises in the middle of the swap, then I would consider that a fair deal. If your old motor has a SS prop, I would be sure to keep it.
I would still insist in at least a 30 day warrantee. If that motor is all they are telling you it is, they should have no problem with that.
JMO, Mike.

 

[gw204]

Personally, I'd go after this one....

http://www.classicmako.com/forum/topic. ... C_ID=29114

 

[VeroWing]

Personally, I'd go after this one....

http://www.classicmako.com/forum/topic. ... C_ID=29114

Only problem with that one, he'll have to go for all new controls, rigging, etc.. With the Johnson he can use his existing gear. If money is no object, then I completely agree to get the newer more modern one.

 

[shadow379]

repower

Money is surely an issue. I am planning on taking the boat to the shop tomorrow and listen to the engine run..but leaning that way for sure

 

[VeroWing]

If it were me, I'd like to witness the compression test while it was being done. It would only take them a few minutes to do it in front of you. All cylinders should be within 10% of each other. Again I'll say to you to press them for a warrantee, even if its' for 1-6 months.
Be sure to ask when water pump impeller was changed, is VRO(oil injection) in correct operating order, and if lower unit oil is fresh and clear (not milky looking). If this motor has only 400-500 hours on it, it should look pretty clean, and not rusty and corroded.
Beware of people selling outboards with supposively low hours, unless they can show you proof positive, which is impossible. If they agree to a warrantee, then you know they are willing to stand behind what they are selling you.
Just my opinion, Mike

 

[shadow379]

going for it

I'm going for this one, the compression checked out 120, 115, 110was the lowest. Cranked up fine. and lower unit checked out. agreed to load test it once it is installed. 90 day breaking policy. About 10 gradys being worked on also gave me some confidence. Hope it works out, ready to go pick some lobsters here...

 

[VeroWing]

Sounds like a winner! Good luck with it.