F150 vs F200 vs F225 Performance Stats

[chathambryan]

I have read what I think are all the posts on the F150 v F200 performance specifications. Everyone seems to reference the performance bulletins on the Yamaha site. Yet while I can find the bulletins, I can't find any related to any Grady White where the same hull is compared using an F150 and an F200. For that matter, can't even find similar hulls from any manufactuer with a 2004 - 2006 F150/F200 comparison. Not even in the archive. Did they remove these?

Back story --

Just sold my 17 Whaler Dauntless and am looking to purchase Tournament 205, 2004 - 2006 vintage.

There are some 150s around, a few 200s, and a 225 or two. There are not many 2 strokes at all. The price difference is substantial between the 150s' and the 200s and 225s. The 150 doesn't have the corrosion issue that I can see and people seem to love this engine. My use is fishing, slalom skiing, tubing. Coastal waters and lakes on cape cod. Top speed is not as important as being able to get up a water start slalom skier with people on boat.

Generally a statement like this would cause one to say "get the 225, you can never have enough HP". But the larger engine brings with it cost, fuel economy and weight. So I would like to make an engineered choice and actually see the spec sheets for these model years on a similar hull.

Any ideas?

Thanks.

 

[Tuna Man]

Send an email to Grady White, they have performance reports for practically every boat they ever manufactured. They have helped me a few times with specs that I could not locate on my own.

 

[magicalbill]

Or, just go to the Grady White website. I just did and went to "Find A Boat." From there you can select a particular boat. Click on that and you then see where to select Performance Stats.
I just went to the 232 Gulfstream, (my boat) and it shows the numbers with both twin 150's and twin 200's.

 

[chathambryan]

Thanks. I contacted Grady White. The numbers of Grady White.com look interesting also although at least for the tournament 205, the numbers are for current model Yamaha engines. The 200 is from 2012. The 150 is from 2007. I emailed them and will see what they come up with. Thanks for the help. I will post answer when I get it.

 

[chathambryan]

thanks for the advice to contact GW directly. They replied this AM with the charts. Great service!

For 2004 - 2006, the max HP on a tournament 205 is 230.

On a tournament 205:

F150

• 
  test date: 12/07
  boat weight: 4,327
  0 to 30 mph: 8.11 seconds
  Time to plane: 5.73 seconds
  Cruise RPM/MPH/GPH: 4200/28.2/7.4
  Max RPM/Speed: 6000/42.7

F200

• 
  test date: 8/12
  boat weight: 4,453 lbs
  0 to 30 mph: 8.73 seconds
  Time to plane: not listed
  Cruise RPM/MPH/GPH: 3900/29.6/8.0
  Max RPM/Speed: 6000/45.2

F225

• 
  test date: 11/05
  boat weight: 4,252 lbs
  0 to 30 mph: 5.96 seconds
  Time to plane: 3.99 seconds
  Cruise RPM/MPH/GPH: 4000/30.7/904
  Max RPM/Speed: 6000/46.1

So for my needs of 50% skiing/tubing and 50% fishing, the 225 seems like the right option. Now I just need to find one in good shape.

 

[Tuna Man]

Happy to learn that Grady still can provide to stats to people like us that prefer to do their research before making a large purchase. They have helped me many times in the past. Just a reminder, you could probably get by with any of the three engines if you prop them correctly. In my limited experience, the quicker the boat accelerates while pulling a water skier, the better (especially with beginners). Happy shopping!

 

[Karter34]

225 is the go for sure . For your families and your own piece of mind buy brand new .
Once you have spent it , it's gone forgotten about

 

[SC Adventure 208]

No way the 225 weighs 200 lbs less than the 200. Especially the new 4-cyl 200.

 

[DennisG01]

No way the 225 weighs 200 lbs less than the 200. Especially the new 4-cyl 200.

I think the weight difference is due to variations in fuel, gear and people weight... not so much engine weight.

 

[dcdude]

If you subtract about 300 pounds of test crew, all versions seem to be about 4,000 pounds wet. Add about 750 for a tandem axle trailer, looks like the 205 just barely makes it under a 5,000 weight rating. But not much margin, and I would want brakes on both axles.

 

[luckydude]

My stats with a 228 and a 250 are very close to what Grady had on their website. I'm in the Pacific, it's lumpy, not the best conditions. My guess is their stats are on a lake with no chop, no wind. Whatever, they said top speed was 47, I hit 45 on the pacific. Close enough.