Gulfstream 232D length for moorage calculations

[Roarque]

The marina I recently moved into has advised me that my 232D has a moorage length of 31.5 feet "as measured between two brick walls". I'm not familiar with that term but I can imagine what it means. When I've measured its length, with no serious attempt to be very accurate, I thought it was about 27 feet. The boat is moored with its twin F150s fully raised but I'm still stunned by their measurement.

I might add that my boat is a stock Grady - equipped from the factory with a bow sprint and anchor and with a 'swim platform" onto which the F150s are attached.

Has anyone out there had a similar experience? I'm thinking it's a cash grab on the part of the marina but I have no recourse but to pay a higher moorage rate.

 

[Fishtales]

The marina I recently moved into has advised me that my 232D has a moorage length of 31.5 feet "as measured between two brick walls". I'm not familiar with that term but I can imagine what it means. When I've measured its length, with no serious attempt to be very accurate, I thought it was about 27 feet. The boat is moored with its twin F150s fully raised but I'm still stunned by their measurement.

I might add that my boat is a stock Grady - equipped from the factory with a bow sprint and anchor and with a 'swim platform" onto which the F150s are attached.

Has anyone out there had a similar experience? I'm thinking it's a cash grab on the part of the marina but I have no recourse but to pay a higher moorage rate.

Usually this means tip of the bow pulpit to the end of the engines when up. Get a buddy and a long tape and run it out. My guess is they are accurate. The center line is 23'5" not including bow pulpit/anchor, swim platform and engines when up measured from tip of skeg.

 

[seasick]

It means that if you backed your boat with motors raised up against a wall and then slid another wall up against the bow, the space between the walls is 31.5 ft. A boats advertised length is usually the length along the water line, which is less than the overall length. To that overall length you would add the extended length of the motor, bracket offset if any, pulpit and/of anchor roller plus anchor. Their number could be right. They might even add a fudge factor for the offset from the moorage float to the hull tie off since the line would be at an angle. If you don't have a pulpit or anchor roller bracket or a motor bracket, you might ask for an explanation of how they measure and perhaps even a joint meet to verify the measurement. I could see a 28 ft measurement but 31 1/5 sounds like a STRETCH ( pardon the pun )

 

[Fishtales]

I don't think you will find it is off by much, but agree they probably round up to the nearest 1/2 foot for any overage (for instance 31' 0.1" is 31'6"). The bracket on a buddy's boat was 30", not sure what it is on the Gulf. I'd guess 24" for the pulpit/roller/anchor and another 24" for the motors.

 

[DennisG01]

A measurement is a measurement is a measurement. This is a black and white thing with no grey area. As long as you measure the same way they are, then your measurements should match up (with the caveat of possible "rounding"). 31' sounds about right, though. Go measure it (accurately) to find out for sure - if there's a discrepancy, then talk with the marina.

 

[artodea]

That sounds about right - my marina measured all the boats in their slips during the summer and my Gulfstream measured at 29' 7" with the engine tilted up (I don't have the bow pulpit). My little 23' boat is a 30-footer for the slip fee starting next summer.

 

[glacierbaze]

When it's on a trailer or blocks, drop a plumb bob from the tip of the motor, and from the tip of the anchor, and measure between the two marks.

 

[SkunkBoat]

My marina asked what size the boat was. I said its an Express 265. He said ok ...26 feet. I love my marina.

All the marinas I have ever used over 18 years with my V20 Steplift charged me for 20 feet. No BS about motor raised or an anchor hanging off the bow.
Guess I'm just lucky?

I never understood the pricing by the size of the boat...the slip is the same size. Its not like they can sell the remaining space when a 17 is in a 23 foot slip.

Are they putting you in a bigger slip because your "23" will stick way out of the smaller slip and block the channel?
If they are charging you for 31 ft and jamming you into a 23 ft slip then I call shenanigans!

Are they lowballing the price/foot vs. other marinas to suck you in but then charging you for more feet?

 

[Fishtales]

Most are pretty fair. You sometimes run into someone that want to squeeze every last penny. If you think that is the case, I'd move on and find a new marina. If they want every penny here, you pay every penny for everything else.

 

[SkunkBoat]

That sounds about right - my marina measured all the boats in their slips during the summer and my Gulfstream measured at 29' 7" with the engine tilted up (I don't have the bow pulpit). My little 23' boat is a 30-footer for the slip fee starting next summer.

Centerline length of a 2010 Gulfstream is 23'5". Hard to believe that a 25" XL lower unit can stick out 6 feet from its mount when raised Is an XL motor even 6 feet long in total?

Are they running a tape across the windshield?

 

[DennisG01]

Centerline length of a 2010 Gulfstream is 23'5". Hard to believe that a 25" XL lower unit can stick out 6 feet from its mount when raised Is an XL motor even 6 feet long in total?

Are they running a tape across the windshield?

2' of mid-casing from the mounting point on the bracket to the lower unit, lower unit is probably 12" to 18". Plus 3', give or take, for the bracket.

 

[artodea]

2' of mid-casing from the mounting point on the bracket to the lower unit, lower unit is probably 12" to 18". Plus 3', give or take, for the bracket.

Centerline length of a 2010 Gulfstream is 23'5". Hard to believe that a 25" XL lower unit can stick out 6 feet from its mount when raised Is an XL motor even 6 feet long in total?

Are they running a tape across the windshield?

Right - I should have pointed that out: my Gulfstream has the Gill bracket that sets the engine back about 3'. The G2 engine tilts up higher than the Yamaha (which means the lower unit is out of the water), so the 6' or so added to the length is all engine and its mount

 

[Fishtales]

not often guys are complaining of size and looking for shrinkage.

couldn't help myself...

 

[suzukidave]

assuming it is mounted correctly, the maximum an extra long leg motor can extend from a transom or bracket is 25" plus the distance from the skeg to the bottom of the cavitation plate. typically on a v6 that is around 17".

so allow 42" +/- 5" for the motor, plus the boat's centreline hull length, plus any bracket or pulpit.