Latest MFD, Sonar and Radar

Fishtales

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So what do folks think of upgrades... Is the technology that much better today than 10 years ago?
I have 10 year old gear at this point - Raymarine E series displays, m260 100w shoot thru ducer, Digital Sounder Module, radar overlay. All works great.

There are clearer and bigger displays. Touch screens, HD radar, side scan sonar and I'm sure other upgrades. With it comes a pretty big price tag.
I was looking at it all and even with a decent discount, it would be quite expensive. I'm leaning no and just wait for my next boat..... Thoughts?
 

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My stuff is closing in on ten years also. It works really good. I can do without all the "Latest and Greatest" as long as what I have is working. The technology continues to get better and better and I have seen some cool stuff but I don't feel the need.
 

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The only upgrade that seems to be worth it to me is side scan. I put it on my Scout for finding structure (Garmin 94sv $699 with transducer) and it is definitely a game changer for finding structure and associated fish in our area of the Gulf coast. All my GW equipment is 2006 Garmin 5212s and radar and works good. May add sidescan before too long.
 

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Don't forget the best technology, friends on the water with cell phones. Lol
 
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Updated Mine this spring- All Garmin 2 - 7612, Autopilot, Radar and transducers

Amazing capabilities
 

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wspitler said:
The only upgrade that seems to be worth it to me is side scan. I put it on my Scout for finding structure (Garmin 94sv $699 with transducer) and it is definitely a game changer for finding structure and associated fish in our area of the Gulf coast. .


ditto....
 

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I bought my 2004 265 in 2011 and added a new Raymarine C120W MFD with sonar and radar, so it was only 6 yrs old when I replaced the MFD and sonar unit last year. The new electronics are two 12" Raymarine Axiom units with the same radar unit but with Downvision and Realvision sonar/tducer. I also installed the latest Navionics platinum chip.

The GPS mapping, level of bottom detail, and speed of redraw is far superior to the C120W (with a 2011 platinum chip). The bottom updates from Navionics really makes a difference when trying to find a ledge or shoal.

The key difference is the new sonar technology. Like the others have said about the Garmin sonar, the Realvision images are like a camera underwater. I'm still learning new things and have not installed the new RM software update (the boat is still under the cover) but it's supposed to enhance the capabilities even further.

It's a lot of $$, but I think it was worth it.
 

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Last June (2017) I replaced the Raymarine C series that was original (I assume, 2007) and upgraded almost everything with the Raymarine Axiom system.

Bottom line: seriously way better than my C series stuff. Faster, clearer, more powerful.

Good to note they immediately came out with an Axiom "pro", so the proverb always rings true: Don't buy first generation stuff. I think there's a reason they went to Axiom "pro" within a year. I have Axiom "Amateur"?? Regardless, here are the pros and cons.

Pro's:
Lighthouse 3 software system is really really REALLY fast, and you can get updates for this and all other Raymarine systems via WiFi, sometimes I turn my cell phone into a Hot Spot and load stuff. Navionics latest stuff is actually TOO detailed for my tastes, but you can customize, see below.
Boot up time- everything boots up much much faster than my C series, especially the RADAR (which is wireless to my MFD, only requires power cord, one less wire to snake), it seems like it boots up in about 15 seconds or less and whammo I can see.
AIS- comes with AIS transmitter, you can use the AIS reciever from your VHF if you'd like
Screen Clarity/Brightness- Way way clearer, depth of colors wider and brighter.
Reduncancy- Both my Helm (12") and Aft (9") have GPS and separate transducers. Max366 has a downvision/realvision, and I have 3D transducer on the stern, and their recommended 1000W Airmar (275?) Chirp bronze thru hull in the hole where the old hockey puck used to be.
Easy Installation- good instructions, cables were plenty long, ends of cables have different sizes for different applications so you're not putting any one cable in the wrong receptacle, all the things a weekend warrior like myself needs to not chew up too many weekends.
NEMA 2000- Everything is compatible with NEMA 2000, I'm using my Garmin Autopilot, my iCOM radio, my Yamaha engine data is shown on my helm station, etc.
Customization- It seems every last variable of the screens you choose is customizable. Radar overlay yes or no, grid yes or no, rings yes or no, colors, font sizes for data small medium large xl, which data do you want shown on which screen, which depth do you prefer waterline or under transducer or under keel, on and on and on and on. It's almost too much customization honestly, it gets confusing when you set several screens up and don't carry over the exact same setup you did before (but maybe you want a different set of data in your running chart vs your jigging chart vs your trolling chart???)
WiFi- I've got an old iPad the kids don't use at my main helm station as a repeater from the rear MFD which we always have set to full screen depth. This way I can use the helm MFD for everything else, including a panel where I control my stereo system. I also use my cell phone to remotely control the rear MFD if the crew gets out of hand. (BTW the stereo feature is only compatible with a specific series of Rockford Fosgate equipment)

Cons: My Axiom "amateur" MFD is touch screen ONLY, and I've had occasion where the screen has frozen and shut down for some reason, and won't turn back on no matter how many times you swipe your finger across the glass where the power "slider" is. The new AXIOM Pro series is offered with a unit that has both touchscreen AND buttons, so you can do a hard reset and get back in gear. I have yet to solve this problem with my touch screen only. Looks cool, but I'd like a power BUTTON. Otherwise the touch screen is awesome for zooming in and out (redraws instantaneously fast), rotating, plotting, etc....

The other con is the "bridges" or NEMA 2000 switches that you need to purchase in order to network other non-Raymarine products. You spend $120 for a kit-kat sized cable link with one red light for my Garmin (isn't this all supposed to be NEMA 200 compliant, why do I need a $120 switch?) and Yamaha engine data. It all works great, but you have to buy a converter of some type. Raymarine customer service is very good at helping you pick out the specifics for your product, and taking your money.

I'm still figuring it out and have the regional sales rep engaged for a review of my system in the next week to see what the deal is with my touchscreen power. Maybe I can trade it in for a new MFD with an actual button I can push!

Bottom line: seriously way better than my C series stuff. Faster, clearer, more powerful.

My 0.02c

Good luck!
 

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I just acquired a 2003 Sailfish 282 and am going through the same research; there's 10 year old electronics on the boat and whereas they seem to work (albeit the Furuno chart plotter has a "South Chesapeake Bay" GPS card and I'm in Southern California), the new generation of electronics is superb.

Generally electronics have a 6 month cycle so unfortunately once you purchase something it's probably been on the market for a bit and has (at least at the manufacturer) already been superseded. I'm looking at the Garmin stuff, either the 7610xsv or the 7612xsv and they are multi function, eventually I can upgrade the radar and the chart plotter can display that data as well.

The new generation of Chirp transducers are awesome, the detail is fantastic; the new chart plotters have far more processing power than units 5 years ago.

Hope this helps.