Minimum HP Grady White Tournament 223?

[TaraMcM]

Thanks for all your replies. We are convinced not to go less than 200. Our local Suzuki dealership said he has a 200 hp in stock but says he needs to see our boat to give me quotes on rigging, gauges etc., he estimated $5300 on top of the $15800 plus tax. I gave him a 100% refundable 10% deposit but just have a concern about this engine really being in stock, I’m hearing about all kinds of delays on 200s. Any other questions I should be asking before turning my boat over to them? This includes fly by wire shifter. Do dealers say they have stock when they don’t???

 

[TaraMcM]

Look at post #10 where the OP mentioned a brand new 200 Suzuki is almost $23k in their area. Seems quite high to me, as you'd think it would be under the $20k range. But it sounds like getting a used 2 stroke for $3k is likely better for them at this point, especially since their boat is currently already rigged up for an HPDI outboard.

The used 2 stroke was dependent on Sellers new engine coming in and my family really frowned at another 20 yr old engine that we do not have an opportunity to be checked by our mechanic, we pay by Venmo and then have delivered to our mechanic who is swamped doesn’t get back to us for weeks. We need to get away from that scene. I have a 16 yr son that just started taking the boat last summer with friends and I need peace of mind and to stop spending so much time on this engine thing. If I could find a local hpdi I would go that route but getting my mechanic to look at even a local one is daunting.

 

[TaraMcM]

I owned a 225 Tournament with a 200 Saltwater Series. Added a Mirage Plus 15.25 x 17 prop and that helped, but it's no speed demon. You can get to 40 mph if you trim it high. Low end will be a challenge if you want to pull a skier.

I don’t care about pulling a skier nor going really fast, I just don’t want to plow across the bay if we have max passengers. The 200 is the perfect set up as you all have comfirmed, I appreciate that. My mechanic says a 4 stroke 225 is too heavy and the rating to 250 is only for a 2 stroke? Idk …

 

[glacierbaze]

Where does it say, "2 Stroke or 4 Stroke"?

boat hp rating plate - Google Search

 

[Mustang65fbk]

The used 2 stroke was dependent on Sellers new engine coming in and my family really frowned at another 20 yr old engine that we do not have an opportunity to be checked by our mechanic, we pay by Venmo and then have delivered to our mechanic who is swamped doesn’t get back to us for weeks. We need to get away from that scene. I have a 16 yr son that just started taking the boat last summer with friends and I need peace of mind and to stop spending so much time on this engine thing. If I could find a local hpdi I would go that route but getting my mechanic to look at even a local one is daunting.

I guess it would all come down to how much you want to spend then. If you don't mind paying for a brand new motor then by all means, you'll have the peace of mind as you mentioned in your above comment. I'd consider getting a second opinion from another marine mechanic if yours is currently weeks out, though it is summertime and it is the busiest time of the year for these things. I'd honestly still consider the used HPDI motor in DC as any competent marine mechanic should be able to swap out your current motor for that one in a matter or a day or two I'd think at the most. If going brand new, $5,300 for rigging and installing the new motor seems like a ton of money to me, have you considered calling around and getting quotes from other dealers? The Suzuki DF200A is available in both mechanical and digital controls, of which I'd definitely go digital.

 

[TaraMcM]

Where does it say, "2 Stroke or 4 Stroke"?

boat hp rating plate - Google Search

It doesn’t, my mechanic told me that….. I wish he would say yes to a 225 4 stroke I can find that for $7k but he said no, too heavy.

 

[TaraMcM]

I guess it would all come down to how much you want to spend then. If you don't mind paying for a brand new motor then by all means, you'll have the peace of mind as you mentioned in your above comment. I'd consider getting a second opinion from another marine mechanic if yours is currently weeks out, though it is summertime and it is the busiest time of the year for these things. I'd honestly still consider the used HPDI motor in DC as any competent marine mechanic should be able to swap out your current motor for that one in a matter or a day or two I'd think at the most. If going brand new, $5,300 for rigging and installing the new motor seems like a ton of money to me, have you considered calling around and getting quotes from other dealers? The Suzuki DF200A is available in both mechanical and digital controls, of which I'd definitely go digital.

Yes definitely digital, I visited 3 different dealers for quotes. I’m not qualified to evaluate an engine, what if it blows a cylinder like mine just did, it’s 20 yrs old.

 

[Mustang65fbk]

Yes definitely digital, I visited 3 different dealers for quotes. I’m not qualified to evaluate an engine, what if it blows a cylinder like mine just did, it’s 20 yrs old.

You definitely roll the dice anytime you buy something used and especially something that's 20 years old, though if the owner of the ad is being honest and the powerhead has been rebuilt with 800 hours on it then that is definitely much more reassuring. You could always try calling around to Yamaha techs in DC and see if they could look at the outboard for you, or see if the seller would drive the boat and trailer to a shop and have it looked over? I think buying brand new would be about your only other option if you're not wanting to roll the dice on a used outboard.

 

[glacierbaze]

Nothing reassuring about 800 hours on a rebuilt power head, that could have had 3000 hours on it before that.

 

[Mustang65fbk]

From everything that I've read about them, the HPDI's as well as the ox66's, are typically very good two stroke motors that if well taken care of and maintained, should hopefully have a long, trouble free life.

 

[TaraMcM]

From everything that I've read about them, the HPDI's as well as the ox66's, are typically very good two stroke motors that if well taken care of and maintained, should hopefully have a long, trouble free life.

Yes mine has 2700 hours on it.