Quick Question Bilge Pump Voyager 248 Help

gradywhite248

Well-Known Member
Joined
May 6, 2014
Messages
182
Reaction score
0
Points
16
I have a quick question. Last time I was at the coast my aft Bilge pump quit. I know its a Rule 1500 an will order another one but is the strainer basket mounted to the floor and you unsnap the old an snap in the new & wire?
Sorry I hate not being able to look myself. any help or photos would be great....

Thanks
 

DennisG01

GreatGrady Captain
Joined
Sep 1, 2013
Messages
7,187
Reaction score
1,340
Points
113
Location
Allentown, PA & Friendship, ME
Model
Offshore
I guess you could look on Rule's website (Xylem). But if it's not a snap-in, there will just be a couple screws. Either way, simple enough. Bring proper tools/extensions. Even if it is snap-in, there's always the possibility that a previous owner screwed it down.
 
  • Like
Reactions: gradywhite248

seasick

Well-Known Member
Joined
Aug 19, 2008
Messages
9,529
Reaction score
1,420
Points
113
Location
NYC
I would assume it is hard wired, no connector. You will have to cut and splice.
 
  • Like
Reactions: gradywhite248

hooked on Grady

Well-Known Member
Joined
Nov 18, 2019
Messages
190
Reaction score
142
Points
43
Location
northern New Jersey
Model
Offshore
Yes it should be a snap in fit provided it is replaced with same. Before replacing you could check the leads for corrosion, check to see the float is operating properly and make sure the strainer for bilge pump is not clogged. You will find a lot of stuff comes loose over the years down in there and eventually it clogs up the strainer. The pump is mounted to a mounting block in the bilge if you change units be sure to epoxy both old and new holes as the block will rot out quickly down there
 
  • Like
Reactions: gradywhite248

seasick

Well-Known Member
Joined
Aug 19, 2008
Messages
9,529
Reaction score
1,420
Points
113
Location
NYC
Assuming your boat has a manual bilge pump switch in addition to the automatic switch, it is important to know that those two functions are powered from two different sources: Direct from the battery compartment for the auto function and powered from the switched accessory buss for the manual function. I mention this because knowing that the manual function works but the auto doesn't means that the bilge pump is good. ( as long as it has 2 wires and not 3). If neither function works, that can mean that 1. the pump is bad, 2. both power feeds are bad, 3. the ground is bad. Using a test lamp can be very helpful. Before you cut out the old pump, you want to know that the problem is not corroded wiring.
 
  • Like
Reactions: gradywhite248

Blaugrana

Well-Known Member
Joined
Sep 16, 2019
Messages
703
Reaction score
107
Points
43
Age
41
Location
Bayville, New Jersey
Model
Seafarer
When I replaced my pumps, I had to replace the strainer as well. I bought the same GPH and all from Rule but the snap-ins were different. So plan for that when you go to replace it.

It is a simple job. One thing I was not expecting was that the same screws used for the strainer/ base were used to secure the platform to the hull. I really thought the platform would be secured and then the strainer with small screws.
 
  • Like
Reactions: gradywhite248

Don Davis

Well-Known Member
Joined
Mar 2, 2020
Messages
378
Reaction score
124
Points
43
Age
60
Location
Courtenay, British Columbia
Model
Seafarer
I’m just in the process of replacing my forward bilge pump which I believe is the original pump in my Seafarer. My wires were rotten between the float switch and the pump so decided to replace with an automatic pump this time to match the newer aft pump. I just need to complete the soldering and shrink wrap and all done.
 

Attachments

  • D584E315-671D-4C7C-B99B-AE9D372928CC.jpeg
    D584E315-671D-4C7C-B99B-AE9D372928CC.jpeg
    456.9 KB · Views: 11
  • CD20068D-37A8-4B13-8C06-31EED7106113.jpeg
    CD20068D-37A8-4B13-8C06-31EED7106113.jpeg
    319.6 KB · Views: 12
  • Like
Reactions: gradywhite248

seasick

Well-Known Member
Joined
Aug 19, 2008
Messages
9,529
Reaction score
1,420
Points
113
Location
NYC
I’m just in the process of replacing my forward bilge pump which I believe is the original pump in my Seafarer. My wires were rotten between the float switch and the pump so decided to replace with an automatic pump this time to match the newer aft pump. I just need to complete the soldering and shrink wrap and all done.
Soldering?

Not ABYC approved. The best solution is adhesive lined crimp butt connectors.
 

Don Davis

Well-Known Member
Joined
Mar 2, 2020
Messages
378
Reaction score
124
Points
43
Age
60
Location
Courtenay, British Columbia
Model
Seafarer
Soldering?

Not ABYC approved. The best solution is adhesive lined crimp butt connectors.
Hmmm interesting I would have thought that soldering was the gold standard for all electrical connections, especially in marine environment. Could some elaborate on this topic for me, thanks, we may need a new thread for this.
 

hooked on Grady

Well-Known Member
Joined
Nov 18, 2019
Messages
190
Reaction score
142
Points
43
Location
northern New Jersey
Model
Offshore
definitely not! It actually weakens the connection and I believe promotes corrosion(I may be wrong here, but I think I read that somewhere in what not to do in boat wiring, boat wiring 101). adhesive lined shrink tube connections properly crimped with quality crimpers( I prefer the company with all the blue handles) Ancor or Pace tinned wire with properly sized heat shrink terminal connections. Label everything at both ends and you should be good to go.
 

Don Davis

Well-Known Member
Joined
Mar 2, 2020
Messages
378
Reaction score
124
Points
43
Age
60
Location
Courtenay, British Columbia
Model
Seafarer
Wow I just learned something valuable again from this site and the members thank you. I just read the ABYC standards for wire connections so will follow those from now on.