Repower options for 282, real data available?

[bbal08]

Comments welcome on choices listed below; any relative cost and/or economy/reliability/ease of maintenance data especially helpful.

Re-powering 2005 Sailfish currently equipped with Yamaha F225s with 4 bladed 17" pitch props. Current setup has adequate power, planes easily, but it sure would be nice to burn less fuel.

Use is primarily Pacific out of Westport; salmon, halibut, tuna (out to ~70 miles). Current motors run great, but, cost of maintaining increases over time and new should offer better performance, range, digital controls and peace of mind. Use perhaps ~200 hrs/season.

Typical trip runs at 13-30 mph, depending on ocean conditions. Ability to plane at low speeds while heavy (full fuel, live well, 400#s ice, 4 guys) and best cruising economy in those speed ranges are key considerations.

Choices (no particular order):

Honda BF250:

Suzuki 250/300 AP:

Yamaha F250/300:

Etec Gen 2:

New Mercury 3.4 Liter V-6 225:

Interesting new option from Merc with little info to date, but....at 3.4 liter slightly bigger displacement than current 3.3 Yamaha but only 484 #s at 25" shaft length. If power = or better than current and taking ~250 #s off the transom how might that translate to performance? Any experience with 4 cylinder F200 Yammies or DF200 Suzukis on a Sailfish or even an Express 265?

Thank you.

 

[Legend]

I updated my 2004 Sailfish from Yamaha F225s the F250 and the performance difference is remarkable - out of the hole thrust is great, top end speed is 51 in the spring. Fuel consumption is comparable or slightly better than the F225s. I never had any issue with the F225s until the corrosion issue last year so it is tough to make a call on the reliability of the new ones since they are only 10 months old. The installed cost was around 22k. This was using old controls and replacing just 2 of the 4 gauges. The F250 are the mechanical version not the electronic shift.

 

[MA208]

22k per engine installed, correct?

 

[jbrinch88]

Im in a similar situation as you. I want to go with either 3.4 merc or 4.2 yamaha on my 24' Grady to replace my 225 Etec. I work for a Mercury/Yamaha dealer and haven't had one issue with any of the 4.2 yamahas we service in our yard. Have yet to see or work on the new 3.4 Mercs, however I was on the phone with Mercury tech service the other day and while I was waiting on some information I happened to bring them up to the tech I was speaking with. He said he's heard nothing but good things with them so far and apparently they are pretty impressive.

 

[Legend]

22k per engine installed, correct?

Yes sorry , should have clarified the total was around 45K with a few incidentals needed for the install

 

[Motivator]

I repowered my 2006 282 with Yamaha F250's in 2016. Went from 3.3 F250's to 4.2 F250's with mechanical controls to save some money and because it was basically plug and play. I am currently running my old props which have done ok, but I am unable to get over 5100rpm's. New props have been ordered so we will see how it goes. Economy is 1.6-1.7 at 3400rpm's loafing along at 27knots.

 

[bea5454]

I repowered my 2006 282 with Yamaha F250's in 2016. Went from 3.3 F250's to 4.2 F250's with mechanical controls to save some money and because it was basically plug and play. I am currently running my old props which have done ok, but I am unable to get over 5100rpm's. New props have been ordered so we will see how it goes. Economy is 1.6-1.7 at 3400rpm's loafing along at 27knots.

Believe the 3.3l was 2-1 ratio versus 4.2l 1.75-1. What are old, new props? Good luck with it, think it will be an awesome set-up.

 

[Motivator]

Can't remember the old prop specs, but the props I have been waiting on are SWS2 SDS15 1/2 x 17. They have been on backorder/out of stock seemingly for ever. Ship date keeps getting pushed back by months.

 

[bbal08]

Can't remember the old prop specs, but the props I have been waiting on are SWS2 SDS15 1/2 x 17. They have been on backorder/out of stock seemingly for ever. Ship date keeps getting pushed back by months.


Motivator:
Are the props you're looking for the common Yamaha SS three blade ones? I'm recalling that the ones which came on my 2005 F225s were SWS2 17". Sitting in a box in the shop last I saw them.

We just pulled the trigger on a new set of Suzuki DF300APs. Will be interesting to see where we end up prop wise but thinking initial trial will be with 16 x 18.5 Powertech LS4. When we went to 4 blades on the current F-225s we gained better low speed planing and fuel economy which optimized the lower speed ranges we typically run at.

 

[Legend]

Can't remember the old prop specs, but the props I have been waiting on are SWS2 SDS1175 1/2 x . They have been on backorder/out of stock seemingly for ever. Ship date keeps getting pushed back by months.

These were the props I got with the new F250. I was originally running with the old props from
my f225s because the new SDS props were backordered. With the old props I was running around 5200 RPMS - with the new SDS 15 1/2 x 17 we top out around 5900RPMs. They are the perfect prop for your set up

 

[Motivator]

BB,
New props have shift dampening.

 

[novass70]

bbal08 I sent you a PM.