Worth the rebuild?

Whitty

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Hello all , after years of lurking the site and gathering great amounts of info i finally have a need for a post. My question is mostly going to warrant opinion based answers which is dangerous i know but here we are.

I purchased a 1983 seafarer 226 about a year and a half ago for what i think was a steal (the motor is worth more than i paid). Has a 2007 Yamaha 200 hpdi with 280ish verified hours, 2007 dual axle aluminum trailer with surge brakes in great shape . Also has a aluminum frame top with canvas cover and the clear windows that snap on to make the cockpit enclosure. Transom was rebuilt on the east coast of fl where i purchased the boat according to the previous owner but i have no documentation , but there are signs shes been into before.

The boat was a shade of grey/green/black when i purchased it from the previous owner. I have gone through the motor and done all maintenance and cleaned the old girl up, replaced batteries , wiring and the cuddy cabin wall , as well as removed the tank and built a new larger capacity all aluminum replacement (if my math is correct shes around 130-140 gal). She has new cushions in the cuddy and the cuddy has been stripped cleaned up and painted as well as all new stainless through hull fittings all around. builge pumps and raw water wash down are all new and i rebuilt the bennet tabs system and replaced the pump . I have plans to box the transom, and use sea cast material , add a live well and fish box at the transom , attach motor bracket with swim platform and build a hard top to replace the canvas. I also plan on removing the pedal stool seats and building tackle storage boxes to mount the seats on. I know in my mind based on past experiences with previous boats (76 Mako 20 , sea hawk etc) I will more than likely end up pulling the cap and replacing stringers as well. My question for you all is , is it worth it to remove the cap and redo the stringers and transom and throw on the bracket?... or should i enjoy her for a bit and sell as is. all work will be done by me so the costs will be for material .

The boat when finished will more than likely be an heirloom to give my son when hes old enough, as i fully plan on getting a larger Grady center console in the future. Here
she is minus the thru hulls. feel free to share thoughts and oppinions and ask any questions . thanks in advance!
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The boat looks great, if it's reliable & if you don't need the extra cockpit space right now I'd hold off on making any changes. Sounds like you've already done quite a bit of hardcore maintenance stuff, I'd enjoy it for a while. Closing in the transom + bracket is a lot of work and $$$. How do you spend most of your time on the boat? Mostly fishing with some pleasure cruises, or vice versa? Rough seas goin for it, or calmer trips? That would dictate what I'd do with the transom.
 

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My general idea for the build/boat is way out fishing trips and once she’s done How I want I want her, trips to the Bahamas , and the possible trip to the keys . I’m looking at about 2k for the material to Do the transom. The add on things is what I know will cost me . She runs and rides good as of now ,on a topside tank to the islands and short trips in the bay . I just got the tank done and coated finally but I have yet to install it . My concern is when I bought her she was full of stagnate water and fuel down in the belly where the fuel tank goes , there is some wood rot in the forward compartment walls . The old fix it while I’m here or send it moral debate has begun . I find myself at the crossroad of keep it fix it right and probably never get rid of it or sell it and let someone else build the dream. She floats and goes but I don’t want to put myself in a situation to have a failure of some sort offshore . Failed bilge pumps , failed thru hulls , trouble running , all things I can fix to get home . Structural issues is a different story .
 

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Fixing the wood rot in the fwd compartment could get into a whole lotta mess once you tear into that. The hull is foam filled outside those walls, and I believe theres another full height stringer between those walls and the side of the hull.
Any way to see if the foam is wet? Drill some exploratory holes?
$2k for the transom materials might be a little high unless you've got a lot of other work you're doing with it (livewell, pumps, etc.). Thats you doing all the work yourself. Last one I did was about half that but was a while ago maybe coosa has gone up? I shopped around for brackets last year, best deal for what I wanted was $1600 & that didn't include a full swim platform. The grady transom has factory knees from stringer to transom so the bracket bolt hole placement is critical, can't use just any old bracket.
 

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I agree 100% that it will more than likely open a can of worms , I don’t know for sure if the foam is wet , I would assume so as there is a chunk of the foam exposed at the top corner in the forward compartment. The wood portion of the walls in the lower compartments seems to have been glasses half way up and that’s all . I will do more probing to see just how bad it is . My worry is that I call it good and install the tank and floor panels and have to pull it all back apart to do it all in a year . What is your opinion /experience with the coosa board ? My plan was to use sea cast and the cost was $1500 and change , my 2k number is an estimate for consumables and fiberglass materials as well as the paint to finish it . I am in the process of redoing a 14ft ski barge to keep me in the water while I work on the grady .
 

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I did a transom with Carbon Core (aka Arjay) pourable transom. I think for a do it yourselfer its better than Seacast because it really does pour without air voids. Seacast is thick and really needs to be vacuum bagged.
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The Gradys seem to all have flat transoms which makes using plywood or coosa a viable option. I did a V20 Steplift transom with multiple angles so I removed the inner skin and poured to maintain the shape.

As far as "Is it worth it?" Not if you are selling it. If you are keeping it and you like "the project"...hey, its nice when guys keep old things going.
You sound like you want to move up in size. I was at that moment once...a boat I loved for 18 years...continue on with stringers, deck, paint?....or sell and move up....I have a 265 Express now...
 

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1984 Seafarer here. Purchased in 2017. Wet transom. Did a total restoration and enclosed the transom. I have a link to videos here. The newest video summarizes the finished product. Crazy amount of fishing room in a 22' seafarer with a bracket. Check it out! I used COOSA! https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLKY3HuZDoWwR_iSbBmZmWEkSuhFlgBwjb
I have followed your build for a while and watched your videos a few times ! Great looking boat! Did you end up replacing any stringers on your boat?
 

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I have followed your build for a while and watched your videos a few times ! Great looking boat! Did you end up replacing any stringers on your boat?
No. I had a small area I replaced in the fuel tank area that seemed to be due to a penetration. Ground it out and reglassed. Otherwise, they were in good shape. I did cut back the stringers when I redid the transom and they were hard. I re-used the pieces and also sistered them to add additional strength in the transom.