I looked at the brochure from 2000. It appears that in 2005, its final year, the Islander gained almost 1000 pounds. No idea if it did, or it was a misprint. Find it hard to believe additional equipment weighed that much.
same thing with the Chase. 3975 to 4843 pounds from 2005 to 2006. No major changes to the boat either (2000 the running surface was extended, in 2002 the console and live well were reconfigured). I asked grady about this, and not a lot of info regarding it. their best guess was that maybe the higher weight included a hard top, but had no real answer.
For 2000 GW replaced the 268 Islander with the 270 Islander. Biggest difference was the 268 had a Euro transom that stopped the hull short of the motors by about 24". The 270 has a full length hull all the way back to the transom. This was done to add more flotation to deal with the new 4-stroke engines.There were other smaller mods. Not sure I buy 1,000 lbs.
That is incorrect. The Grady White 268 Islander, per the brochures, appears to have run until 2001 and it wasn't until the 2002 season that GW replaced the 268 Islander with the 270 Islander. Although, even after they did do the rebranding, the specs on the 268/270 Islander remained the same until its final year of 2005, when the weight of the boat for some reason went up 1k lbs. I think that the most reasonable explanation for the weight gain, besides it being a long winter, is because of a typo. Considering that the 265 Express has a similar length, yet has a wider beam and a wider transom width compared to the 270 Islander, but somehow the 270 Islander is still "200 lbs heavier" than the 265 Express? Again that doesn't make any sense to me, nor does it make any sense that a boat manufacturer like GW being as "cost effective" as they've been known to be, would make that many radical changes to a model of boat for only one year. Especially for a boat that they likely realized was going to be discontinued soon.
Thank you! The hull running surface being lengthened to the transom was the important point. GW did the same thing with the Sailfish hull around that time. All to support the new 4-stroke motors.You left out the part about the 2002 270 looking identical to the older ones, except they had the full length hull.
I can also tell you from first hand experience, the 2005 270 specified hull weight is legit. I also thought of another reason the hull weight went up. I'll just say it goes back to my previous hunch, but for different reasons.
I'm not exactly sure as to what you're trying to say about the full length hull, as the 2001 268 Islander looks like the 2002 270 Islander to me. Are you trying to say that the overall length of the 2002 and newer Islander's is longer than the older ones or something? Also, what are you basing your "first hand experience" of a 2005 270 Islander off of, your 1999 248 Voyager?You left out the part about the 2002 270 looking identical to the older ones, except they had the full length hull.
I can also tell you from first hand experience, the 2005 270 specified hull weight is legit. I also thought of another reason the hull weight went up. I'll just say it goes back to my previous hunch, but for different reasons.
Ok... but the specs on the boats have basically been the exact same throughout the years, with a few minor exceptions like a slightly taller hardtop starting in 2001 and a slightly different hull draft starting in 2004. In 2004 and 2005 they also list the overall length of the boat with a bow pulpit on it, of which they're also identical to one another, yet somehow the 2005 model mysteriously went up 1k lbs when everything else about it on paper is identical to the 2004 model? In regards to standard and optional features on the two boats, they're all the same between the 2004 and the 2005, except the 2005 comes standard with 8 drink holders and not 6 like the 2004. Then there are two optional features that are slightly different between the years... the 2005 had an option for Sirius satellite radio whereas the 2004 did not, and the 2005 had a 6 rod rack storage option in the cabin, whereas the 2004 only had a 4. Which I can't imagine that those extra 2 drink holders, satellite radio and a slightly larger rod rack holder add anywhere near an extra 1k lbs in weight to the boat
Look I'm not sure what you are trying to prove. The 268 and the 270 have slightly different hulls but not 1000 lbs and only on the 2005 model. My guess is the hull weights may not be correct in the advertising! Holly crap what a mistake! If it bothers you that much call GW customer service.Ok... but the specs on the boats have basically been the exact same throughout the years, with a few minor exceptions like a slightly taller hardtop starting in 2001 and a slightly different hull draft starting in 2004. In 2004 and 2005 they also list the overall length of the boat with a bow pulpit on it, of which they're also identical to one another, yet somehow the 2005 model mysteriously went up 1k lbs when everything else about it on paper is identical to the 2004 model? In regards to standard and optional features on the two boats, they're all the same between the 2004 and the 2005, except the 2005 comes standard with 8 drink holders and not 6 like the 2004. Then there are two optional features that are slightly different between the years... the 2005 had an option for Sirius satellite radio whereas the 2004 did not, and the 2005 had a 6 rod rack storage option in the cabin, whereas the 2004 only had a 4. Which I can't imagine that those extra 2 drink holders, satellite radio and a slightly larger rod rack holder add anywhere near an extra 1k lbs in weight to the boat
1995 268 8'6" beam BC w/Hardtop 8'9" Centerline length 26'11" Hull draft 15" Transom width 7'10" Weight w/o engine 4,660 lbs
1996 268 8'6" beam BC w/Hardtop 8'9" Centerline length 26'11" Hull draft 15" Transom width 7'10" Weight w/o engine 4,660 lbs
1997 268 8'6" beam BC w/Hardtop 8'9" Centerline length 26'11" Hull draft 15" Transom width 7'10" Weight w/o engine 4,660 lbs
1998 268 8'6" beam BC w/Hardtop 8'9" Centerline length 26'11" Hull draft 15" Transom width 7'10" Weight w/o engine 4,660 lbs
1999 268 8'6" beam BC w/Hardtop 8'9" Centerline length 26'11" Hull draft 15" Transom width 7'10" Weight w/o engine 4,660 lbs
2000 268 8'6" beam BC w/Hardtop 8'9" Centerline length 26'11" Hull draft 15" Transom width 7'10" Weight w/o engine 4,660 lbs
2001 268 8'6" beam BC w/Hardtop 9'3" Centerline length 26'11" Hull draft 15" Transom width 7'10" Weight w/o engine 4,660 lbs
2002 270 8'6" beam BC w/Hardtop 8'9" Centerline length 26'11" Hull draft 15" Transom width 7'10" Weight w/o engine 4,660 lbs
2003 270 8'6" beam BC w/Hardtop 8'9" Centerline length 26'11" Hull draft 15" Transom width 7'10" Weight w/o engine 4,660 lbs
2004 270 8'6" beam BC w/Hardtop 8'9" Centerline length 26'11" Hull draft 17" Transom width 7'10" Weight w/o engine 4,660 lbs LOA w/pulpit 29'4"
2005 270 8'6" beam BC w/Hardtop 8'9" Centerline length 26'11" Hull draft 17" Transom width 7'10" Weight w/o engine 5,594 lbs LOA w/pulpit 29'4"
Ok... while there may have been "some changes" made to the hulls over the years, my main point was that the specs per the brochures are relatively all the same, except for the 1k lb increase between 2004 and 2005 model years. Which was also mentioned above. My neighbor has a 2005 GW 270 Islander, that doesn't make me an expert on them, nor would I really say that makes it so I have "first hand experience". But I can read a brochure and use a bit of deductive reasoning and common sense to say that the weights are likely not accurate.
Ok great, my neighbor also has a 2005 GW 270 Islander as well. I'm not sure how that will prove what the dry weight of it is though, especially when compared with other model years of the same boat.
