Nautical Miles/ 228 Seafarer

[Gradywhiteonthehorizon]

Hey Smoky Mountain Grady! Hope things have been good on your end with family and all? I’m picking up a Grady up in NYC next week if all goes as planned. It will be a 228. The info you gave me is what I’m after. It gives a pretty good idea of what to expect. My estimates we’re coming in at 3.40 miles per. But, a little change in conditions will make a difference as you pointed out. I’m looking forward to the Bahamas and the Keys. Look me up the next time your around if you want?

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Brook

 

[SmokyMtnGrady]

I might in the Keys in the Spring and likely next summer. Will do. my Bahama adventures were great. want to go back, waiting for the infrastructure to recover some more after Dorian destroyed the islands last summer. it got sporty coming back across Rebecca Shoals on the Tortugas trip. the boat handles stuff well . waves have a period and when you get the boat dialed in you can take some weather . it's a great Keys boat.

 

[Gradywhiteonthehorizon]

I’m looking forward to them. I’m already on the Sunset Coast as it is. It wouldn’t take much for me to get there if you would keep me posted? I’ll be taking some pics after I return from NYC the week after next if all goes according to plan. It’s a 2016 the owner bought May in 2017 with just under 218 hrs.

 

[SmokyMtnGrady]

I’m looking forward to them. I’m already on the Sunset Coast as it is. It wouldn’t take much for me to get there if you would keep me posted? I’ll be taking some pics after I return from NYC the week after next if all goes according to plan. It’s a 2016 the owner bought May in 2017 with just under 218 hrs.

There is a canal on the ocean side of Key Largo that I counted 4 228s on lifts.

 

[magicalbill]

No one has answered this yet, but his question was the Nautical Mile Range of a Seafarer.

Assuming he chooses 50 miles as his safe trip range, the Nautical Mile Equivalent is 43.4.

I use statute miles too, but I thought I'd answer the question as written.

Couple notes on the area your boating in:

Many is the day in the summer months that you'll have light NE E to SE breezes in the morning when you go out and a localized seabreeze in the afternoon on your way back in. This translates to a following sea going out and an onshore following sea coming back in. I have a great friend whom I grouper fish with sometimes, and he's seen that happen dozens of times.

During winter when the cold fronts punch all the way thru, things get a bit more cantankerous, but you'll still have your days. SE to SW winds will precede an incoming front and when the boundary passes, they will veer NW and then NE for 2-3 days post-passage. Most of the time they are 15kts or higher with 2-3 footers common, unless the Hi pressure pushing down is weak. Afterword, it'll lay down 'till the next front comes thru.

Venice Inlet, as you know, is a deep and easy passage. (Don't get too close to either jetty bank or you may get a fishing line in your prop.) Stump Pass and Little Gasparilla Pass to the South are iffy at best. Shoaling occurs and the depths & channels are always changing. Navigate them with local knowledge gained, or be very cautious with your hand on the trim button all the way in. Same with Big Sarasota Pass to the North, although the Sarasota Yacht Club has updated nav info on Big Pass. The latest channel is marked with floating ATON's that the Yacht Club members move according to the shifting sands. Check their website for the latest.

This info is purely subjective. I had a Seafarer for 10 years and loved every minute. My comfortable limit was and is 10 kts and 2 ft seas. I am speaking of the wind chop that is common in the Gulf. Rarely do we have the swell that LuckyDude experiences on a regular basis. Occasionally, we'll get long period swell sprung from a distant storm, like Laura a few days ago. Mostly the Gulf just bounces you around, and 2 footers are my limit. Yours may be more. The boat can take it., although when it stops being fun, I go in.

Keep us updated on the boat, your Fun Factor and where you go.

 

[Gradywhiteonthehorizon]

No one has answered this yet, but his question was the Nautical Mile Range of a Seafarer.

Assuming he chooses 50 miles as his safe trip range, the Nautical Mile Equivalent is 43.4.

I use statute miles too, but I thought I'd answer the question as written.

Couple notes on the area your boating in:

Many is the day in the summer months that you'll have light NE E to SE breezes in the morning when you go out and a localized seabreeze in the afternoon on your way back in. This translates to a following sea going out and an onshore following sea coming back in. I have a great friend whom I grouper fish with sometimes, and he's seen that happen dozens of times.

During winter when the cold fronts punch all the way thru, things get a bit more cantankerous, but you'll still have your days. SE to SW winds will precede an incoming front and when the boundary passes, they will veer NW and then NE for 2-3 days post-passage. Most of the time they are 15kts or higher with 2-3 footers common, unless the Hi pressure pushing down is weak. Afterword, it'll lay down 'till the next front comes thru.

Venice Inlet, as you know, is a deep and easy passage. (Don't get too close to either jetty bank or you may get a fishing line in your prop.) Stump Pass and Little Gasparilla Pass to the South are iffy at best. Shoaling occurs and the depths & channels are always changing. Navigate them with local knowledge gained, or be very cautious with your hand on the trim button all the way in. Same with Big Sarasota Pass to the North, although the Sarasota Yacht Club has updated nav info on Big Pass. The latest channel is marked with floating ATON's that the Yacht Club members move according to the shifting sands. Check their website for the latest.

This info is purely subjective. I had a Seafarer for 10 years and loved every minute. My comfortable limit was and is 10 kts and 2 ft seas. I am speaking of the wind chop that is common in the Gulf. Rarely do we have the swell that LuckyDude experiences on a regular basis. Occasionally, we'll get long period swell sprung from a distant storm, like Laura a few days ago. Mostly the Gulf just bounces you around, and 2 footers are my limit. Yours may be more. The boat can take it., although when it stops being fun, I go in.

Keep us updated on the boat, your Fun Factor and where you go.

 

[luckydude]

I greatly your feedback luckydude. Looks like I’ve got a learning curve ahead of me. I look forward to you the mentor teaching the the ropes and what to expect. There are certain risks to do what we love. I look forward to your insightful knowledge and appreciate it.

That's hilarious seeing as I have 20 whole hours on my main engine. I'm a rank n00b, I'm literally a few hours ahead of you on the 228. I'll bet anything you have way more boating experience than I do.

I'm happy to help with the 228 curve, it's quite steep at first. I was terrified the first few times I went out, I was 100% on my own, didn't know how to dock at all. On the upside, I didn't get laughed at at the ramp when I was docking and I left it in gear. Some kind soul to pity on me and cleated me off.

If you know Alan Tani, the reel fix it guy, I've talked with him about the learning curve. His comment: "When I was learning, a good day was when I didn't lose something or break something."

 

[Gradywhiteonthehorizon]

Hi magicalbill, looks like your local and using the same passes as will I. I like the info on the wind directions and how they change as I have witnessed many times. It’s a good reminder of what can and will happen. That can definitely add to the fuel consumption levels. Not to speak of the changing weather conditions. I used to run a 306 Bimini and was not as concerned about going 20-30 miles out. Bigger boat, tanks, pretty much everything.

Your words speak from wisdom and experience, More so than myself. I will heed cation to the wind (literally).

Yes, I did mention nautical miles not really knowing the difference, statuate miles...that one I’ll read up on that one.

My thinking is to enjoy the boat and to know the boats limits as well as my own. That is one of the main reasons as to why I am on this site. I want to know that on leaving in good weather, I can return in bad or worse weather. I know how conditions change.

i look forward to your continuing support.

 

[Gradywhiteonthehorizon]

That's hilarious seeing as I have 20 whole hours on my main engine. I'm a rank n00b, I'm literally a few hours ahead of you on the 228. I'll bet anything you have way more boating experience than I do.

I'm happy to help with the 228 curve, it's quite steep at first. I was terrified the first few times I went out, I was 100% on my own, didn't know how to dock at all. On the upside, I didn't get laughed at at the ramp when I was docking and I left it in gear. Some kind soul to pity on me and cleated me off.

If you know Alan Tani, the reel fix it guy, I've talked with him about the learning curve. His comment: "When I was learning, a good day was when I didn't lose something or break something."

 

[magicalbill]

You will have it.

To coin the overused Covid Phrase.."We're all in this together."

 

[luckydude]

Yeah, the saying is true. If not, we’ll that person really doesn’t know to much. I’ll miss a run this year. Looking forward to the smokers when they come through. Like to get out to the AJ’S too. Snapper bite is good too. Although that is the change of seasons for the Smokers is usually a bit climatic, as we see it twice a year. This boat will handle that...love it.

keep me abreast of what/how you are loading those kayaks. I have two of them. They are real stealth fishing boats. I can pull up within 20’ of our tarpons.

This is Alan Tani's boat with 3 kayaks. He's taxi cabbing them down to Big Sur:

Kinda cool.

 

[Gradywhiteonthehorizon]

. It maybe true but, you still have some helpful information that I can learn from. I look forward to seeing what you’ve experienced. That is helpful. I’m also curious about the waters in Ca. Different waters over there.

As always, thank you for your support.

 

[Gradywhiteonthehorizon]

This is Alan Tani's boat with 3 kayaks. He's taxi cabbing them down to Big Sur:

Kinda cool.

 

[Gradywhiteonthehorizon]

Kinda cool? That’s awesome! Where can I get those Kayak holders?

 

[luckydude]

Kinda cool? That’s awesome! Where can I get those Kayak holders?

I'm looking. This is all I found so far:

Boat Mounted Racks | SUP & Kayak Storage | Magma

Magma Products offers a wide selection of Boat Mounted Racks. Browse our available options now and find the right one for you!

magmaproducts.com

I emailed Alan, will post whatever he says.

 

[luckydude]

. It maybe true but, you still have some helpful information that I can learn from. I look forward to seeing what you’ve experienced. That is helpful. I’m also curious about the waters in Ca. Different waters over there.

As always, thank you for your support.

I'm happy to help where I can. That curve, which I'm still on but have climbed up a bit, is very fresh. As someone else said, we're all in this together. It's why I love this forum, it's a bunch of nice, helpful people. Very few old salty dogs which seem to be the norm on THT.

 

[Gradywhiteonthehorizon]

I'm looking. This is all I found so far:

Boat Mounted Racks | SUP & Kayak Storage | Magma

Magma Products offers a wide selection of Boat Mounted Racks. Browse our available options now and find the right one for you!

magmaproducts.com

I emailed Alan, will post whatever he says.

 

[Gradywhiteonthehorizon]

Got to have it. That’s great info.

Thank you sir.

 

[luckydude]

Kinda cool? That’s awesome! Where can I get those Kayak holders?

Just got an email from Alan, those are home made.

 

[Gradywhiteonthehorizon]

I was wondering about that when I looked at it. I like the site you sent. I think it’s worth investigating.Thanks for the heads up.