265 Express/Suzuki DF200APXW2

[magicalbill]

Glad your happy with the results.

Isn't spinning those mils at 5K a bit much for long periods?

 

[SkunkBoat]

Glad your happy with the results.

Isn't spinning those mils at 5K a bit much for long periods?

no 6100 is the normal WOT on these. 5k is just in the wheelhouse.
I know it sounds strange...my ox66s ran 45 mph @ 5200 WOT

 

[magicalbill]

Yeah, I come from that same era; that's why I gave your RPM's a second look.


Sounds like your fuel burn is much more efficient. That savings should buy extra drinks at the dock party...

 

[Steelhead211]

First...I'm not going to talk about the fishing because we're in a slump and can't catch a cold....

Ran 40 miles out to the Resor wreck Friday afternoon on reports of a fantastic bluefin bite that morning.
Motors were flawless. Ran 32 mph @5k , MPG reading was 1.4mpg bouncing to 1.6 sometimes
Burned 66 gals for 80 miles running plus 3 hrs of troll.(I didn't reset the trip so I don't have the troll miles)
Beautiful weather. Sat back and really enjoyed my new motors
View attachment 13923


decided to do a turn around at 430 the next morning, maybe catch a morning bite.
Wind was North @ 15-19knts. Ugly tight 3 footers with white caps and a swell from 2 directions.....Ran 18 miles to Little Italy at 25ish mph, so as not to get killed, still showing 1.4 mpg
Trolled to the SR reef and headed home.
No problems. Motors and 265 handle it great. 55 miles on trip Burned 30 gals

Trolling 7 mph @1500 on 2 motors was 2.8/3.0 mpg. trolling on one was better...I want to say @1800ish? and 3.8 mpg.

I really need to write things down when I'm looking at numbers.

Awesome motors skunk!!! I’m hoping to put the same motors on my 265 express this winter.

 

[SkunkBoat]

Here is a summary. I put this into the original post so anyone landing there looking for info doesn't have to read thru a long thread...


Twin DF200APXW2 inline 4 cylinder 4 stroke 531 pounds each
Drive by wire.
settled on 4 blade 15.25 x 22 props after poor results with 3 blade 16 x 20. They slippped when goosing the throttle on takeoff and in current against standing waves.
4 blades feel good.

Loaded with 250 gals of gas and 150 pounds of ice
ran to canyon 252 miles total and burned 159 gls = 1.59 mpg avg
(for reference, my Yamaha ox66 225s averaged 1 mpg on same trips and we had to bring safety gas and limit trolling while there or troll some going out and back)

Troll was something less than 50 miles. best to run one engine to troll at 7 mph @ 2000 rpm 3.8 mpg
Fuel burn was better on the return run as the boat was lighter
running 35 mph @5400 gauge said 1.4 mpg
running 30 mph gauge read 1.4 out/ 1.6 back
(the gauge seems to only read even numbers above 1.1 so 1.4 could be 1.5)

Top speed loaded was 39 mph @ 6000 and 1.1 mpg
Conditions were ideal...glassy and minimal swell

Had problem with the mounting of steering off my Yamahas. The dealer, Sherman's Boat Basin, installed the seastar 5345 cylinder on the bottom of the pivot arm and it prevents the starboard motor from raising out of the water. They say that the tie bar from my Yamahas prevents them from mounting on top.
I have a new seastar HO6001 tie bar on order.
Another 265 got same motors from same dealer and they were able to mount his on top and both motors come out of the water when raised.
edit:: I moved the steering cylinder to the top and installed the HO6001 kit and both motors are well out of the water when raised. I set the spread to 28 3/8".

The motors were mounted in the same holes as the Yamahas. One hole from all the way down. It is not possible to lower them as the motor will hit the transom before reaching that hole. They are 28" on center. The dealer set them parallel, ie, the tie bar was 28". I lengthened the tie bar 1/2" thus giving the motors a "toe out" angle(props pointing toward centerline slightly). This definitely improved the 265 slow speed wandering steering!

I had the dealer add the Auxillary Charging cables so that my House batteries are always charging when any motor is running.

I really like the new SMG4 gauges.smg4gauge/youtube

I don't regret going down in horsepower from 225s. The 200s are plenty for the boat unless you are always in calm water and like to fly.
IMO the 265 does not handle well above 40 mph in any case.

 

[Sparkdog118]

First...I'm not going to talk about the fishing because we're in a slump and can't catch a cold....

Ran 40 miles out to the Resor wreck Friday afternoon on reports of a fantastic bluefin bite that morning.
Motors were flawless. Ran 32 mph @5k , MPG reading was 1.4mpg bouncing to 1.6 sometimes
Burned 66 gals for 80 miles running plus 3 hrs of troll.(I didn't reset the trip so I don't have the troll miles)
Beautiful weather. Sat back and really enjoyed my new motors
View attachment 13923


decided to do a turn around at 430 the next morning, maybe catch a morning bite.
Wind was North @ 15-19knts. Ugly tight 3 footers with white caps and a swell from 2 directions.....Ran 18 miles to Little Italy at 25ish mph, so as not to get killed, still showing 1.4 mpg
Trolled to the SR reef and headed home.
No problems. Motors and 265 handle it great. 55 miles on trip Burned 30 gals

Trolling 7 mph @1500 on 2 motors was 2.8/3.0 mpg. trolling on one was better...I want to say @1800ish? and 3.8 mpg.

I really need to write things down when I'm looking at numbers.

Those Suzuki’s are gorgeous. Sorry to say, but I’m getting to like them better than Yamahas.

 

[SkunkBoat]

Those Suzuki’s are gorgeous. Sorry to say, but I’m getting to like them better than Yamahas.

my sister in law said they were "some sexy motors"

 

[amf282]

I'm with you skunk....the Zukes rock. We took our first run outlast month and the boat handled flawlessly and we are better on our fuel burn. Our boat just wants to go fast now.

 

[RussGW270]

I just wish there could be better than 1.1mpg. Curious the impact of going from 2004 f225s to zuke 200s. Also 2004 f225s to 2019-ish 225s or 250s, albeit I doubt 250s would be worth the cost increase.

R

 

[SkunkBoat]

Finally got some time to install the HO6001 tie bar kit. Both Zukes are out of the water when up!

 

[RussGW270]

Well, all I can say is they need to be in the water or your hole shot is gonna Skunk.. lol

Nice

 

[Capt. Flash]

View attachment 11300

Here's our new 300's on our 282

Hi
What prop size u using
I’m having trouble with my 250s

 

[tilewave]

Hi
What prop size u using
I’m having trouble with my 250s

chuck will probably chime in but i think they are 4x16x20, i can check tonight

 

[tilewave]

chuck will probably chime in but i think they are 4x16x20, i can check tonight

i was a little off , 15.25 x22

 

[Capt. Flash]

Hi
What prop size u using
I’m having trouble with my 250s

awesome she looks sweet
what mounting hole are you on it looks higher up then mine

 

[Capt. Flash]

i was a little off , 15.25 x22

thanks

 

[SkunkBoat]

Motors into the second season. Running even better. I was cruising 32 mph @ 4600rpm and 2.1 mpg

 

[magicalbill]

That's a big time difference. Those things have broken in nicely. Keep those "pesky coolers" off the boat, and you'll continue to turn those numbers.

Hope your season is going well!

 

[tilewave]

my sister in law said they were "some sexy motors"

ha ! i have some peeps on my dock calling my motors SEXY also !

 

[cmware]

Bye Bye Yamahas.... she is off to get Suzukis

Edit: In case you land here and don't want to read thru the whole thread, here is a summary...

Twin DF200APXW2 inline 4 cylinder 4 stroke 531 pounds each
Drive by wire. http://www.suzukimarine.com/Product Lines/Outboard Motors/Products/DF200AP/2012/DF200AP.aspx
settled on 4 blade 15.25 x 22 props after poor results with 3 blade 16 x 20. They slippped when goosing the throttle on takeoff and in current against standing waves.
4 blades feel good.

Loaded with 250 gals of gas and 150 pounds of ice
ran to canyon 252 miles total and burned 159 gls = 1.59 mpg avg
(for reference, my Yamaha ox66 225s averaged 1 mpg on same trips and we had to bring safety gas and limit trolling while there or troll some going out and back)

Troll was something less than 50 miles. best to run one engine to troll at 7 mph @ 2000 rpm 3.8 mpg
Fuel burn was better on the return run as the boat was lighter
running 35 mph @5400 gauge said 1.4 mpg
running 30 mph gauge read 1.4 out/ 1.6 back
(the gauge seems to only read even numbers above 1.1 so 1.4 could be 1.5)

Top speed loaded was 39 mph @ 6000 and 1.1 mpg
Conditions were ideal...glassy and minimal swell
Light in flat calm river I get to 41mph

Had problem with the mounting of steering off my Yamahas. The dealer, Sherman's Boat Basin, installed the seastar 5345 cylinder on the bottom of the pivot arm and it prevents the starboard motor from raising out of the water. They say that the tie bar from my Yamahas prevents them from mounting on top.
I have a new seastar HO6001 tie bar on order.
Another 265 got same motors from same dealer and they were able to mount his on top and both motors come out of the water when raised.
Edit: I moved the steering cylinder to the top and installed the HO6001 kit and both motors are well out of the water when raised. I set the spread to 28 3/8".

The motors were mounted in the same holes as the Yamahas. One hole from all the way down. It is not possible to lower them as the motor will hit the transom before reaching that hole. They are 28" on center. The dealer set them parallel, ie, the tie bar was 28". I lengthened the tie bar 1/2" thus giving the motors a "toe out" angle(props pointing toward centerline slightly). This definitely improved the 265 slow speed wandering steering!

I had the dealer add the Auxillary Charging cables so that my House batteries are always charging when any motor is running.

I really like the new SMG4 gauges.smg4gauge/youtube

I don't regret going down in horsepower from 225s. The 200s are plenty for the boat unless you are always in calm water and like to fly.
IMO the 265 does not handle well above 40 mph in any case.

Edit: since break-in the mpg has improved. Gauge consistently reads 1.6 or 1.8 at 30mph and generally 1.6 at 34mph in nice seas.

Great info here, can you clarify what RPM you are running at when cruising at 25mph?